Friday, November 17, 2023

For Father Paulo Boumis there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance but he will continue to have adult catechesis this month in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is also the theological position of the SSPX and the sedevacantists.

 

OCTOBER 9, 2023

For Father Paulo Boumis there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance but he will continue to have adult catechesis this month in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as being physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church, in the present times, who are practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is also the theological position of the SSPX and the sedevacantists.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/10/for-father-paulo-boumis-there-are-no.html

 


 

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For Father Paulo Boumis there are no

physically visible cases of the baptism of desire

and being saved in invincible ignorance but he 

will continue to have adult catechesis this month 

in which he will interpret BOD and I.I as 

being physically visible non Catholics saved 

outside the Church, in the present times, 

who are practical exceptions for the 

dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.This is also

the theological position of the SSPX and

the sedevacantists.



Cardinal Angelo Donatis, Vicar General of the 

Rome Vicariate, and his Auxiliary bishops know 

the same, as does the National 

Catechetical Center, Italy, but they will 

teach Catechism, with this objective error,

since this is what Pope Francis wants, 

in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.

They are not concerned about the truth 

or the faith, but, they are concerned about

the political Left.

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So if I was presenting the Catechism in the parish of Sant Agapito, Rome, I would say outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and I would cite Ad Gentes 7,

Lumen Gentium 14 and the Catechism of 

the Catholic Church (845,846). For me, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc would not be objective exceptions, for Ad Gentes 7 

and the dogma EENS.

Fr. Paul Boumis avoided a discussion on this subject yesterday morning. He did not say that he would interpret Vatican Council II rationally.

I base what I am saying on Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the priest could tell other religious to avoid me?

Yes. Since the priest will affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church but interpret hypothetical cases of LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc, are referring to objectively visible cases. For me they are invisibile.

For him there are visible examples of 

salvation outside the Church. For me they

are hypothetical only.

For him this refers to known non Catholics saved outside the Church. For me they are invisible cases.

So our premises and inferences are different.

So of course our conclusions would be different, they would be traditional 

or non-traditional.




So if I was presenting the Catechism in the 

parish of Sant Agapito, Rome, I would say 

outside the Catholic Church there is no 

salvation and I would cite Ad Gentes 7,

Lumen Gentium 14 and the Catechism of 

the Catholic Church (845,846). For me, LG 8,

UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc would not be 

objective exceptions, for Ad Gentes 7 

and the dogma EENS.

Fr. Paul Boumis avoided a discussion on this 

subject yesterday morning. He did not say 

that he would interpret Vatican Council

II rationally.

I base what I am saying on Vatican Council II 

and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and 

the priest could tell other religious to avoid me?

Yes. Since the priest will affirm Vatican Council

II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church

but interpret hypothetical cases of LG 8, 14, 

15, 16, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc, are referring

to objectively visible cases. For me they 

are invisible.

For him there are visible examples of 

salvation outside the Church. For me they

are hypothetical only.

For him this refers to known non Catholics 

saved outside the Church. For me they are

invisible cases.

So our premises and inferences are different.

So of course our conclusions would be 

different, they would be traditional 

or non-traditional.

- Lionel Andrades

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