So Vatican Council II is still officially saying in its text that outside the Church there is no salvation. This is the main line Catholic Church which uses Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

 

For Archbishop Guido Pozza, at Ecclesia Dei, Vatican and also Pope Benedict- Vatican Council II had a hermeneutic of continuity with the past. But also for them, extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) today was no mo re like it was for the missionaries of the 16^th century. Then there was a development of doctrine with Vatican Council II. So Vatican Council II did not have a hermeneutic of continuity with the past, but one of rupture.

 As I have mentioned before, it is all in the red passages. If you interpret the red passages as being physically visible exceptions for the dogma EENS then you have created exceptions. It is EENS with exceptions.

If you interpret the red passages as being physically invisible cases in the present times, then for you they are not exceptions for EENS. So Vatican Council II does not have any exceptions for the past exclusivist ecclesiology, while Ad Gentes 7 supports the dogma EENS and Lumen Gentium 14 is cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the title Outside the Church there is no salvation. The Catholic Church is once again saying outside the Church there is no salvation.This is the rational and honest option.

So Vatican Council II is still officially saying in its text that outside the Church there is no salvation. This is the main line Catholic Church which uses Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

So it is the red hypothetical passages which determine if there are exceptions for the blue orthodox passages in Vatican Council II, or there are no exceptions.

The exceptions- make the dogma EENS and the past exclusivist ecclesiology obsolete. The lack of exceptions, produce the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition.

So LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, all hypothetical cases can be mistake as being non hypothetical and objective and so there emerges a New Theology which says outside the Church there is known salvation.

-Lionel Andrades