Bishop Athanasius Schneider still interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally for political reasons. Pope Francis could be doing the same. Both are heretical

 

Schneider: Heretical Pope Doesn’t Lose Office

There is no authority to declare an elected and generally accepted Pope as invalid, Bishop Athanasius Schneider wrote on RemnantNewspaper.com (September 18).

Even an invalid election would be de facto healed through the acceptance of the overwhelming majority of cardinals and bishops.

A heretical pope would not lose his office automatically. There is no body within the Church to declare him deposed for heresy: “Such actions would come close to a kind of a heresy of conciliarism or episcopalism.”

The theory of the automatic loss of the papacy due to heresy is a mere opinion that theologians such as St Robert Bellarmin noticed, “Never in history the Magisterium of the Church did admit any canonical procedures of deposition of a heretical pope.”

In the case of a heretical pope, the members of the Church can “avoid him, resist him, refuse to obey him.”

The situation of a heretical pope is humanly irresolvable and needs a “Divine intervention.” Schneider adds that an erring Pope is not eternal.

Picture: Athanasius Schneider © Latin Mass Society, #newsOqllajuyug

 JULY 20, 2023

There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II.One of Pope Francis and the other of Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall

 

 MARCH 12, 2019

BISHOP ATHANASIUS SCHNEIDER'S NEW WEBSITE : CAN WE PERSONALLY MEET AND SEE SOMEONE SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD OR INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE IN 2019 ?

Bishop Athanasius Schneider has a new website which welcomes questions. I sent him this message a minute a ago.

Dear Bishop Athanasius Schneider,
 
Praised be  Jesus and Our Lady.
I am a Catholic lay man in Rome and owner of the blog Eucharist and Mission. I submit the following questions to your Excellency and would like permission to post your answer on my blog. Excuse me for not including a telephone number, since I do not use the telephone. I have not  done so for a few years. I have included my e-mail number and you  are also free to contact me. I have been e-mailing you but have not received a reply.

1.The Catholic Church refers to the baptism of desire,(BOD) baptism of blood (BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), which for me are hypothetical and theoretical cases in 2019. If they happened they would only be known to God. So they are not actual non Catholics who are personally known and who are saved outside the Church.Let me further clarify: I cannot meet or see a person saved with BOD, BOB and I.I in 2019.I cannot say that there were 20 cases of the BOD last year or 25 persons,  the previous year.
Is it the same for you Bishop Schneider? Would your Excellency also say that there are no known cases of BOD, BOB and I.I today and there were none which were physically known and seen for us human beings ?
2.So in 2019  BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.
BOD,BOB and I.I never were exceptions to the dogma EENS in 1965 or 1949.
3.   Similarly Lumen Gentium 8 (elements of sanctification and truth), Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance), Lumen Gentium  14 ( the hypothetical case of an unknown catechumen) etc are all hypothetical cases for you ? They are personally invisible people in 2019? So they are not objective exceptions to the dogma EENS, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return ?
3.When Unitatitis Redintigratio 3 refers to 'imperfect communion with the Church', this too is a hypothetical case and can never be a known Protestant or Christian saved outside the Church.So UR 3 would not contradict the dogma EENS or an ecumenism of return ?
4.Since LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc all refer to hypothetical cases Vatican Council II no where contradicts the Syllabus of Errors on ecumenism and non Christian religions.Non Catholics including Christians need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation ?(CDF, Notification,Dupuis n.7( 2001).
In Christ
Lionel Andrades

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SEPTEMBER 9, 2023

The discovery

 

The discovery

We have a discovery today. It’s ‘a small point’ but this small point turns the Council around. From liberalism the Council returns to Tradition. So by ignoring this small point, we have liberalism in the Church. This small point, is the premise: the rational and irrational premise. It decides if Vatican Council II has a continuity or break with Tradition. This is the discovery. We now have a switch. We can turn it off or on. We can choose a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors or a rupture with Tradition.   -Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades

former Staff Reporter, daily Morning News, Karachi, Pakistan.

Recipient of the All Pakistan Newspaper Society (APNS) Best Reporter of the Year Award, presented by the Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto.

Recipient of the Pakistan Government's Award for Literature ( Childrens stories).

Teacher of English and Church History at the Catholic Minor Seminary, Rawalpindi.                                                                                                 

 

                                                            Bishop Anthony Lobo

Sent to Rome for Ministerial Priesthood by Bishop Anthony Lobo, bishop of Rawalpindi-Islamabad, Pakistan.

Discriminated against by the pontifical universities and seminaries in Rome.He interprets Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. So there is a continuity with Tradition. He is not allowed to study at pontifical universities in  Rome,  where it is obligatory to interpret Magisterial Documents, irrationally and unethically.Catholic students and seminarians are discriminated against. This is public and official.

However we have a new discovery in the Catholic Church. There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral, when it is interpreted rationally i.e LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical cases. So they are not objective examples of salvation. They are not objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.The Creeds must not be changed.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version of the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils, which is heretical, non-traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents and call it Catholic.

Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Murray, Balthazar, Kung, Lefebvre and Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally. We can today choose to interpret the Council rationally and in harmony with Tradition.

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