FEBRUARY 26, 2019
According to Vatican Council II and the Catechism Martin Luther is in Hell outside the Church
So it is the Catholic Church, through its magisterial documents which says that Martin Luther is in Hell.These are magisterial documents interpreted rationally.They are interpreted without assuming unknown and invisible people are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
The Catholic Church does refer to some categories of people who are outside the Church and are on the way to Hell. We can say that we know that they are in Hell.
LUTHERANS ARE IN HELL SAID ST. TERESA OF AVILA
LUTHERANS ARE IN HELL SAID ST. TERESA OF AVILA
St.Teresa of Avila was shown the place in Hell where she was to live for all eternity. Her description of Hell was not that of Hans Urs Balthazar. It was a frightening experience.It changed her life. She could bear intense sufferings on earth.Since she knew that it was nothing like what she saw in Hell.She could call up her image of Hell and the suffering on earth would be bearable.
For St. Teresa of Avila all Lutherans are oriented to Hell.
Those who follow Luther will go there said Padre Pio in one of his not- so- politically- correct comments.
DON BOSCO ALSO SAW HELL
Those who follow Luther will go there said Padre Pio in one of his not- so- politically- correct comments.
DON BOSCO ALSO SAW HELL
Don Bosco was also shown Hell and it was frightening for him.Don Bosco affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
I was telling a Franciscan Friar who studies at one of the Leftist pontifical universities in Rome, that he does not know any one who will be saved at the last moment. While the norm for salvation is membership in the Catholic Church. So we know that Luther is Hell.
NORM FOR SALVATION IS THE DOGMA OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION
NORM FOR SALVATION IS THE DOGMA OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION
Similarly he does not know of any one who will be saved in invincible ignorance outside the Church while the norm for salvation is still outside the Church there is no salvation.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church (846) cites Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.
CCC 846 also says:
CCC 846 also says:
CCC 846: Outside the Church there is no salvation. How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
Reformulated positively and rationally, it means all salvation comes through Christ the Head through the Church, which is his Body.This includes all people with no known exception on earth.They all have to formally enter the Church with faith and baptism to avoid Hell (for salvation).
It also means that invincible ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOD) and the baptism of blood(BOB), is always hypothetical and theoretical for us.
BOD, BOB AND I.I ALWAYS WERE HYPOTHETICAL
BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be objective exceptions to all needing faith and baptism for salvation. They never were exceptions.
So the the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is not changed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Martin Luther was outside the Church and no one could say that he was saved in invincible ignorance.Physically no one could see him saved in invincible ignorance.
It also means that invincible ignorance(I.I), the baptism of desire(BOD) and the baptism of blood(BOB), is always hypothetical and theoretical for us.
BOD, BOB AND I.I ALWAYS WERE HYPOTHETICAL
BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be objective exceptions to all needing faith and baptism for salvation. They never were exceptions.
So the the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is not changed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Martin Luther was outside the Church and no one could say that he was saved in invincible ignorance.Physically no one could see him saved in invincible ignorance.
Similarly when the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus says outside the Church there is no salvation there are no known cases of non Catholics saved, for example over the last 50 years, outside the Church in invincible ignorance etc.
So practically there are no exceptions to EENS.
This is also how the text in magisterial documents need to be interpreted.
So practically there are no exceptions to EENS.
This is also how the text in magisterial documents need to be interpreted.
When Mystici Corporis. Quanta Cura and other magisterial documents refer to BOD, BOB and I.I they are not referring to exceptions to EENS. The reference is to hypothetical speculations. Possibililties only for God.
Most Catholics make a mistake here.
Most Catholics make a mistake here.
So Vatican Council II, with its hypothetical references in LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc has not mentioned any exception to Ad Gentes 7 or the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846.
Similarly when the Catechism of the Catholic Church (n.1257) says God knows of no means to eternal beatitude without the baptism of water, this is not contradicted when n.1257 also says, 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'.Since we cannot know of any one saved outside the Catholic Church.'God is not limited to the Sacraments' is theoretical for us. This is a hypothetical appendage to n.1257.
The Franciscan Friar was mixing up hypothetical cases in faith( salvation) and morals as being practical exceptions to the norm on faith and morals, for salvation. Invincible ignorance in faith and morals is not an exception to the norm. This is the mistake upon which the New Theology of Rahner, Ratzinger and Kasper is built upon.
The Franciscan Friar was mixing up hypothetical cases in faith( salvation) and morals as being practical exceptions to the norm on faith and morals, for salvation. Invincible ignorance in faith and morals is not an exception to the norm. This is the mistake upon which the New Theology of Rahner, Ratzinger and Kasper is built upon.
Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are in harmony with the strict interpretation of EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the past exclusive ecclesiology of the Catholic Church and an ecumenism of return.-Lionel Andrades
Sister Maria Serafini, below right, beatified in May 2011, saw Luther in Hell. One day she went to pray in a church but mistakenly entered a Protestant temple. Her Guardian Angel showed her the error. At that moment she saw Luther in the deepest place in Hell. He was on his knees surrounded by huge number of devils with hammers driving large iron nails into his skull.
https://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/B473_Luther.html
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Sister Maria Serafini, below right, beatified in May 2011, saw Luther in Hell. One day she went to pray in a church but mistakenly entered a Protestant temple. Her Guardian Angel showed her the error. At that moment she saw Luther in the deepest place in Hell. He was on his knees surrounded by huge number of devils with hammers driving large iron nails into his skull.
https://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/B473_Luther.html
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