Colin B. Donovan and the liberal website 1 which cites him, assumes invincible ignorance (I.I) refers to known non Catholics saved outside the Church, without the baptism of water and that I.I is the ordinary and general way of salvation, instead of 'faith and baptism'(Ad Gentes 7) being the ordinary way of salvation.
Similarly at Vatican Council II, the Council Fathers assumed invincible ignorance was the ordinary way of salvation since there were known non Catholics saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance. So it became an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). So in Ad Gentes 7 they inserted the line:made known by the Church's preaching.2
In other words they were not in ignorance.Invincible ignorance are known exceptions to EENS.This was their convoluted reasoning.The precedent was set in 1949.
They were influenced by the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which also assumed there were personally known people saved outside the Church, in invincible ignorance.They were saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. This was an objective exception to Feeneyite EENS for them.
If someone is saved in invincible ignorance it would only be known to God.If there was an exception it would not be known to us humans.So invincible ignorance never ever was relevant to EENS as an exception.
Assuming 'for arguements sake', that a non Catholic was saved in invincible ignorance outside the Church, contradicting the dogmatic teaching on salvation, it would still not be known to us.
The liberal theologians wanted to create this confusion and so eliminate the dogma EENS.
A dogma defined by three Church Councils , Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger calls an 'aphorism' in his Catechism(1994) which is covered with the New Theology, which a reader has to detect and avoid.
The New Theology in the Catholic Church today is based upon invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance allegedly being visible and objective exceptions to the traditional teaching on all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.Instead of no salvation outside the Church the teaching now is that there is salvation outside the Church.
So Colin B. Donovan apologist for EWTN not only infers that there are known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance, he goes a step further, he assumes this is the ordinary way of salvation, the norm.The unknown exception makes the rule for him.
Since in principle, hypothetical cases ( invincible ignorance etc) are objective examples of salvation outside the Church, he interprets Vatican Council II (LG 8, LG 16 etc) as a rupture with EENS and the rest of Tradition( Syllabus of Errors etc).
He violates the Principle of Non Contradiction.Since non Catholics saved outside the church would be in Heaven for him and they would be visible to him on earth for them to be exceptions to EENS.So they would have to be present at two places at the same time.This is the irrationality he uses to reject Tradition.-Lionel Andrades
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http://www.23rdstreet.com/video_texts/what_catholics_need_to_know.aspx
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Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. -Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
(All must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching and also not made known by the Church's teaching. Since there are no known exceptions to invincible ignorance which are objective objections on the de fide teaching on the necessity to be a member of the Church for salvation)
OCTOBER 3, 2018
If the See of Peter would interpret extra ecclesiam nulla salus with rational and traditional Feeneyism instead of irrational Cushingism then the sedevacantists may want to return to the old Church, with the old ecclesiology which has not changed with Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/if-see-of-peter-would-interpret-extra.html
OCTOBER 3, 2018
Apologist Colin B. Donovan, STL assumes invincible ignorance 1) refers to known people saved outside the general faith and moral teachings of the Catholic Church and that they are known exceptions to the rule.2) He further infers that invincble ignorances is the ordinary way of salvation
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/10/apologist-colin-b-donovan-stl-assumes.html
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