Sunday, December 2, 2018

During the Vatican-SSPX Doctrinal Talks the Vatican side will refuse to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Magisterium of the 16th century. The SSPX must cite Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All signifies those who know and those who do not know about Jesus and the Church.

During the Vatican-SPX Doctrinal Talks the Vatican side will refuse to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Magisterium of the 16th century.
The SSPX side must cite Ad Gentes 7 which says all need faith and baptism for salvation. All signifies those who know and those who do not know about Jesus and the Church.
So Vatican Council II is in harmony with the three Church Councils which defined the dogma EENS.
So the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) must affirm EENS with the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) not being practical exceptions to EENS.They can be accepted as being  only hypothetical cases.
The Vatican side can confirm that they are only hypothetical cases and that practically we cannot know of any non Catholic saved outside the Church, with BOD, BOB and I.I.
Similarly there are no known cases of a non Catholic saved outside the Church because 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'(CCC 1257).
Nor is there any known non Catholic who is saved or will be saved since the Gospel was not proclaimed to them(LG 14).The norm for salvation is 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14) and we humans cannot know of any exceptions.
There is only the ordinary way of salvation known to us ( faith and baptism) and no extraordinary way (BOD, BOB andI.I).BOD,BOB and I.I would only be known to God-Lionel Andrades

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