The Catholic Church is still Feeneyite

Comments on the blog Vox Cantoris,It's about the doctrine, it always was and remains so!

Peter Lamb said...

Dear Lionel,

I have no truck with Feeneyites, or Feeneyism. Come back to the Church. You could do so much good on the right track. May God bless you. :)

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Lionel:

I depends upon what you mean by Feeneyites.

St. Thomas Aquinas was a Feeneyite since he affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also mentioned hypothetical cases of a person in invincible ignorance and and another hypothetical cases of someone who desired the baptism of water, both of which are not exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) cannot be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made an objective mistake.

Then the Catechism of Pope Pius X was also Feeneyite since it said that all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and it did not mention any exception. This Catechism for example did mention being saved in invincible ignorance, which is not an exception. Since hypothetical cases cannot be seen objectively seem  in the present times, for them to be exceptions to EENS amd of someone is not there he is not an exception.

Then Vatican Council II is Feeneyite since it says all need faith and baptism for salvation and the Council does not mention any exceptions.Hypothetical cases of LG 8,LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc cannot be objective examples of salvation outside the Church. Since if they did exist they would only be known to God. For us humans there are no such cases for example in 2018.There were none in 1965 or 1949.

So the Church is still Feeneyite as was the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.It is a section of the traditionalits and sedevacantists who are outside the Church with heresy.

Since they reject EENS by assuming non existing cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions.

They reject the Nicene Creed by assuming there are three or more known baptisms and all without the baptism of water.

They reject the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation. For them outside the Church there is known salvation.

They do not interpret the Apostles Creed like the Magisterium in the 16th century.

They reject the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX( ecumenism of return) by assuming that the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradicts it with visible and known cases, of non Catholics saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance etc.

So it is important to clarify what do you mean by Feeneyism. Since the St. Benedict Centers, the communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney, traditionalists, also make some of these errors.1

However I agree with Bro. Andre Marie MICM when he says that to be a Catholic is to be a Feeneyite.

-Lionel Andrades
1
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/prior-in-scandal.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/scandal.html