Catechism of the Catholic Church (n.846) affirms the strict and traditional interpretation of EENS defined by three Church Councils in the Extraordinary Magisterium

 

Br. Andre Marie's attached March 7, 2017 letter   1 response to the Manchester Diocese January 23 letter is a complete sell out of the Crusade of St. Benedict Center and Father Feeney's defense of Pope Innocent III Fourth Lateran Council dogma “Outside Church No Salvation”.
And for what? To have good relations with the diocese?

He wrote “I affirm the following propositions”.

The principle “Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus must be interpreted according to the official doctrine of the Church.
All Salvation comes from Christ through the Church, which is the Body of Christ, the Sacrament of Salvation (cf. CCC 846).

 Lionel:

No. It is not a sell out. It depends upon how you interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church(CCC 846.

 "Outside the Church there is no salvation"
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: 

Even with this re-formulation the Catechism of the Catholic Church N.846 does not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) held by the St.Benedict Center.

So even though all salvation comes from Christ through the Church which is his Body  all need faith and baptism for salvation(Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II). All.
 

 

  
We personally cannot know of any exception to EENS. We personally cannot judge if someone will be saved in invincible ignorance outside the Church. This would only be known to God if it happens. This is mentioned by Brother Andre Marie MICM in his Letter on Doctrine.

So the following passage in CCC 846 and also Lumen Gentium 14 in blue is not an exception to the strict interpretation of EENS. It is irrelevant to the dogma EENS as it was interpreted for example, by the Magisterium of the 16th century.

 Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

Here is the passage from Vatican Council II( AG 7) which is  cited in CCC 846.

 

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II 

For the St.Benedict Center the passages in red refer to hypothetical cases, theoretical possibilities known only to God. So they are not objective. Nor are they practical exceptions to EENS. It is Feeneyite.

For the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and Bishop Peter Libasci, Bishop of Manchester, USA, and his Curia, the passages in red, refer to known and visible non Catholics, seen in the flesh by us human beings. So they become practical exceptions  to EENS.

The conclusion of both groups is different since their premise is different.

The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the Saint Benedict Center are rational and have a hermeneutic of continuity with EENS, the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church and an ecumenism of return.

The CDF and the Diocese of Manchester are irrational and have created a hermeneutic of rupture with the past( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).

The Saint Benedict Center is orthodox while the CDF and Bishop Peter Libasci and his curia are heretical and offer Holy Mass in this sacrilegrous condition.

 So the Catechism of the Catholic Church (n.846) affirms the strict and traditional interpretation of EENS defined by three Church Councils in the Extraordinary Magisterium. 

-Lionel Andrades

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January 19, 2019

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : CDF, Diocese of Manchester irrational and heretical 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/vatican-council-ii-and-catechism-of.html