Pope Benedict does not tell Michel Bohnke that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church support the strict interpretation of the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation and so this is the basis of Catholic mission

Pope Benedict did not tell Michel Bohnke, the theologian, that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church support the strict interpretation of the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation and so is the basis for mission to the Jews.Bohnke criticized the pope and accused him of  advocating proselytism (trying to convert Jews)1

  

Vatican Council II ( Ad Gentes 7) says all need faith and baptism for salvation. Ad Gentes 7 is placed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the title Outside the Church No Salvation (CCC 846).So we have Vatican Council II(AG 7) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church(846) in agreement with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).There is nothing in CCC 846-848 to contradict EENS, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.

The following passage in red is hypothetical and not a reference to a concrete and known non Catholic saved outside the Church.

While the passage in blue affirms extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.-Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II

The red is not an exception to the blue, the red does not contradict the blue : Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848

"Outside the Church there is no salvation" 
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: 

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: 

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."

-Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848 

The passages in red refer to hypothetical cases, theoretical possibilities and not personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times(2019).

The passage in blue agrees with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church, for salvation, all need faith and baptism to avoid the fires of Hell.

The passage in blue is the norm for salvation in the Catholic Church, it is the rule on how to go to Heaven, for all people,  as taught to the Church over the centuries, by the Holy Spirit.

For there to be an exception there would have to be a person saved outside the Church who is known and physically visible. An invisible person who does not exist in our reality cannot be an objective excepton to all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.

So the passages in red are hypothetical only,always. They can only be hypothetical.

So Catholics still have traditional mission to all non Catholics, based on the traditional interpretation of exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. This is supported by the Church Fathers and Vatican Council II and the Catechisms.

Pope Benedict calls for a witness and dialogue but does not say that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, in the blue passages. While there are no exceptions to the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS)  in these Magisterial documents( the blue passages). He did not say that the red passages refer to only hypothetical and theoretical cases and so cannot be practical exceptions in the present times, for example 2019, to the blue passages; to all needing faith and baptism for salvation( to avoid Hell).-Lionel Andrades

   
  

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https://youtu.be/aA1GxxUmV3k

JANUARY 26, 2019

    

The Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : CDF makes a mistake

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-catechism-of-catholic-church.html

JANUARY 27, 2019

Pope Benedict never said that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church tell us all need faith and baptism for salvation and so they support the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/pope-benedict-never-said-that-vatican.html

JANUARY 26, 2019

The red is not an exception to the blue, the red does not contradict the blue : Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-red.html

JANUARY 25, 2019

For me the red does not contradict the blue so there is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition ( Graphics)

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/for-me-red-does-not-contrradict-blue-so.html

JANUARY 25, 2019

The Social Reign of Christ the King can be proclaimed based on Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church which affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-social-reign-of-christ-king-can-be.html

JANUARY 24, 2019

Vatican Council II's Decree on Ecumenism ( Unitatis Redintigratio) supports the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/vatican-council-iis-decree-on-ecumenism.html

JANUARY 23, 2019

Catholic religious could join the SBC in the Diocese of Manchester : it is heresy and sacrilege-free : no obligation to use an irrationality to create a hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/catholic-religious-could-join-sbc-in.html

 JANUARY 23, 2019

The rational approach, the only approach, is that CCC 846 affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and there are no practical exceptions mentioned in CCC 846 or the rest of the Catechism

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-rational-approach-only-approach-is.html