Pope Benedict never said that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church tell us all need faith and baptism for salvation and so they support the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Pope Benedict did not recognize that Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation and so affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Also the Catechism of the Catholic Church when interpreted rationally( red passages not exceptions to blue) also support the traditional centuries-old interpretation of the dogma EENS.

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.-Ad Gemtes 7. Vatican Council II

But with this  irrationality Pope Benedict has also changed the Nicene and Apostles Creed and outright rejected the Athanasius Creed. This is first class heresy and he has no right to be a pope.It is the same with Pope Francis. They both need to correct the error in public, Confess mortal sins of faith and end the scandal.

We cannot put the blame on Vatican Council II since the Council can be interpreted in harmony with the Council of  Florence, Cantate Domino 1441.

In a new video Peter and Michael Dimond criticize Pope Benedict and place the blame on Vatican. 1

I affirm Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church in harmony with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).I do not reject the strict interpretation of EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and hypothetical and theoretical possibilities of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), known only to God if it happens.

So I do not belong to a counter-Church, a false Church or a counter Church, even though the two popes are promoting one to please the Left.

Michael and Peter Dimond however interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise. For them hypothetical cases of BOD, BOB and I.I are practical exceptions to EENS in the present times. Similarly for them LG 8 etc refer to visible and known non Catholics saved outside the Church and so they wrongly reject Vatican Council II. They do not see how their false premise makes Vatican Council II a rupture with EENS. This is the way that Cardinal Luiz Ladaria, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith interprets Vatican Council II. The Most Holy Family also use the same irrationality( red passages are exceptions to blue passages) to wrongly interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

They have an option.I have shown it them.

They can affirm  Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 on outside the Church there is no salvation and re-interpret BOD, BOB and I.I as being only hypothetical. So BOD, BOB and I.I  would not be relevant or exceptions to EENS.

They could also affirm LG 8. LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as referring to only hypothetical cases.They are not visible people in 2019. So they are not exceptions to the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return, the Syllabus of Errors, EENS and the Catechism of Pope Pius X.

There is a rational choice but they still avoid it and do not even discuss it.

-Lionel Andrades.

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JANUARY 26, 2019

The Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : CDF makes a mistake

Letter from Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to Brother Andre Marie, Saint Benedict Center

As the Congregation stated in our April 15 letter to you, which the Congregation also shared with Bishop Libasci, the principle "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" must be interpreted according to the official doctrine of the Church, as it is summarized with clarity in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (#846-#848) and, more in detail, in the Declaration Dominus Jesus (#20-#22). The Catechism of the Catholic Church emphasizes that all salvation comes from Christ through the Church, which is the Body of Christ, the Sacrament of Salvation (cf. CCC #846). The paragraph that follows, however, is equally binding, as it considers those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church and states that those too have the possibility of obtaining eternal salvation (cf. CCC #847). This being stated, the Church certainly has a perennial obligation and sacred right to evangelize all men (cf. CCC #848).  

https://www.catholicnh.org/assets/Documents/About/FAQ/Ltr-CDF-SBC.pdf

The red is not an exception to the blue, the red does not contradict the blue : Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848

"Outside the Church there is no salvation" 
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: 

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: 

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."
-Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848

The passages in red refer to hypothetical cases, theoretical possibilities and not personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times(2019).

The passage in blue agrees with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church, for salvation, all need faith and baptism to avoid the fires of Hell.

The passage in blue is the norm for salvation in the Catholic Church, it is the rule on how to go to Heaven, for all people,  as taught to the Church over the centuries, by the Holy Spirit.

For there to be an exception there would have to be a person saved outside the Church who is known and physically visible. An invisible person who does not exist in our reality cannot be an objective excepton to all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.

So the passages in red are hypothetical only,always. They can only be hypothetical.-Lionel Andrades

 JANUARY 11, 2019

The CDF wants Catholic religious communities and lay movements to accept heresy and sacrilege otherwise canonical prohibitions will be placed upon them

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-cdf-wants-catholic-religious.html