Poland, Hungary and Slovakia follow the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus .So there is no tension with a schismatic Vatican.The bishops conferences support the leftist schism in the Catholic Church.

 Poland, Hungary and Slovakia follow the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) .So there is no tension with a schismatic Vatican.The bishops conferences  support the leftist schism in the Catholic Church. 

 The bishops conferences are not aware that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) are  supporting a schism, with the popes of the past.

They have to use a false premise to create a rupture with the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King with the non separation of Church and State.

1.So with the false premise, Catholics in Poland, Hungary, Slovakia,Croatia etc reject the Athanasius Creed which states outside the Church there is no salvation. 
2.They then reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Magisterium of the 16th century.

3.They have changed the Nicene Creed with their understanding of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I, referring to personally known, visible and objective non Catholics saved outside the Church. So it is no more, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins'.Instead it is 'I believe in three or more baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire, blood, invincible ignorance), they are visible and personally known and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.'

4.They have changed the understanding of the Apostles Creed.When we say 'I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'.For centuries the Holy Spirit taught outside the Church there is salvation. Now the new teaching is outside the Church there is known salvation.

5.They interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and so LG 8 emerges as an exception to the dogma EENS. This was expressed officially and in public by Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, at the Placuet Deo Press Conference when a journalist of the Associated Press asked him, if the Church still held that it had the superiority and exclusiveness in salvation.

A priest in Rome who offered the Traditional Latin Mass said that there were no known cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance. They would only be known to God. So he was saying that BOD, BOB and I.I were not exceptions to EENS. 
This was common sense.
 It is obvious that we cannot know of any one saved outside or within the Church with BOD,BOB and I.I.

But for saying this , which I mentioned on this blog, this priest was called up by Archbishop Matteo Zuppi.He was at that time the Auxiliary Bishop of Rome and an active member of the Sant Egido community.

The priest was indirectly saying that he was no more supporting the Leftist schism in the Catholic Church. He was saying that there could only be the traditional strict interpretation of EENS since BOD, BOB and I.I could not be physical exceptions to EENS.

This was not allowed.

The Archbishop then came and met the community.After a week the priest was allowed to offer Holy Mass.

Other priests who do not accept the Leftist schism in the Catholic Church supported with Anti Semitic and under leftist laws, are treated in the same way.

Catholic religious, who go back to Tradition, ignoring the irrational interpretation of magisterial documents by using  a false premise, are being persecuted by ecclesiastical Masonry.

The St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire, who affirms  extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and Vatican Council II without the false premise, has been officially labelled non Catholic.This is the decision of Bishop Peter Libasci, bishop of the Diocese of Manchester, USA and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF).The decision was approved by the far left Southern Poverty Law Center(SPLC).They would not sue the diocese and the Vatican under some leftist law they have created.

Similarly, after Michael Voris produced a good video saying that the Catholic Church is the fulfillment and completion of the Jewish religion and that outside the Catholic Church, there is no salvation. The Archbishop of Detroit, asked Michael not to call his media , Real Catholic TV. So Michael had to remove the word Catholic.Otherwise he would legally not be Catholic for the Left.

Until today CMTV cannot make that particular video available for all and restrict it to premium members of CMTV.

Michael Voris reacted with a program critical of Abraham Foxman and the ADL.

Presently the Catholic  bishops conferences of Poland, Hungary and Slovakia are also following this irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS and and so there is no tension with a schismatic Vatican on this point.-Lionel Andrades