Vatican Council II indicates most people on earth today go to Hell. Since, the Council says all need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7). All. Most people die without it.
Vatican Council II is ecclesiocentric and not just Christological. Membership in the Church; with faith and baptism, is necessary for salvation(to avoid Hell).
For Michael Sean Winters, Massimo Faggioli and John Allen Jr., there are no personally known exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 in 2019. They do not ( and cannot) know any one saved outside the Church, saved without faith and baptism.A person saved would be in Heaven and known only to God.He or she would not be visible on earth.So for the correspondents of the National Catholic Reporter, Crux,Commonweal, Tablet and Catholic News Service there are no exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.In Vatican Council II LG 8, LG 14, LG 16,UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc are not exceptions also to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), for them.
Cindy Wooden, like her counterpart Phillip Pullela at Reuters, does not know any case of a non Catholic saved today with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance, with or without the baptism of water.So the Council indicates most people are going to Hell and Fr. James Martin, personally does not ( and cannot) know of any exception.
They would all be interpreting Vatican Council II like the traditionalist.
Brother Andre Marie MICM, who is not a sedevcantist or a schismatic who rejects Vatican Council II.The Council is Feeneyite for him. So he accepts it.
Times have changed. What a great time we live in. Fifty years after Vatican Council II liberals and traditionalists are united on the Council.-Lionel Andrades
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