Croatian Conference of Bishops and the Bishops’ Conference of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bishop Henrik Hoser the Apostolic Visitor and the Franciscan religious community at Medugorje interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational premise, inference and conclusion, instead of the rational one.
Bishop Henrik Hoser who represent Pope Francis has said that the messages of Our Lady at Medugorje are Christological.
However Vatican Council II interpreted with the rational premise and inference would produce the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. It would support the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, an ecumenism of return based upon the Syllabus of Errors and outside the Church no salvation according to the Athanasius Creed.
There would be a Christology with the necessity of being a member of the Church or Catholic community, as it was known in the Patristic period.
There would be a Christology with the necessity of being a member of the Church or Catholic community, as it was known in the Patristic period.
-Lionel Andrades
TERMS CLARIFIED
February 8, 2020
I affirm Vatican Council II with the rational interpretation and reject the irrational one (Graphics).
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/i-affirm-vatican-council-ii-with.html
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February 10, 2020
Father John Zuhlsdorf irrationally interprets Vatican Council II, extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Creeds and Catechisms and BOD,BOB and I.I like Massimo Faggioli, Michael Sean Winters and John Allen jr.: they use the false premise, inference and conclusion
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/father-john-zuhlsdorf-irrationally.html
February 12, 2020
Cardinal Ratzinger's Professio Fidei is based upon the use of the irrational premise,inference and conclusion in the interpretation of magisterial documents including Vatican Council
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/cardinal-ratzingers-professio-fidei-is.html
February 12, 2020
Fr.Hunwicke,Brother Alex Bugnolo,Louie Verrecchio and Ann Barnhardt interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational premise, inference and conclusion to contradict the Athanasius Creed on outside the Church there is no salvation
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/frhunwickebrother-alex-bugnololouie.html
February 13, 2020
Cardinal Ratzinger and Cardinal Schonborn interpreted Vatican Council II with the irrational premise, inference and conclusion and then put together the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994).Though the Catechism is Cushingie for them we can interpret it with Feeneyism i.e the rational premise, inference and conclusion.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/cardinal-ratzinger-and-cardinal.html
February 12, 2020
50 years of Vatican Council II - drama is over : the Council, EENS, Creeds, Catechisms and BOD, BOB and I.I can be interpreted rationally
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/50-years-of-vatican-council-ii-drama-is.html
February 12, 2020
Michael Sean Winters, Massimo Faggioli, John Allen jr and Joshua McElwee agree that even though Yves Congar, Karl Rahner, Richard Cushing and Joseph Ratzinger were there at Vatican Council II. the Council can be interpreted with the rational premise, inference and conclusion. Then it will be in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church, an ecumenism of return and 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), with no known exceptions. None of them are disputing this.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/michael-sean-winters-massimo-faggioli.html
February 12, 2020
It is not orthodoxy when Roberto dei Mattei interprets the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) with a fake premise, inference and conclusion to create a rupture with 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). For me EENS has no exceptions. For him BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/incomplete-it-is-not-orthodoxy-when.html
February 11, 2020
Rome Life Forum 2020 speakers interpret BOD, BOB and I.I and Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and conclusion to create a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/rome-life-forum-2020-speakers-interpret_11.html
February 11, 2020
All the speakers at the Rome Forum 2020 need to interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms, EENS and BOD, BOB and I.I without the irrational premise, inference and conclusion to create a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/all-speakers-at-rome-forum-2020-need-to.html
February 11, 2020
Rome Life Forum 2020 speakers use an irrational premise, inference and conclusion to interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994) to create a rupture with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX, Catechism of Pope Pius X etc).
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/rome-life-forum-2020-speakers-use.html
February 11, 2020
Bishop Donald Sanborn, Bishop Daniel Dolan , Fr. Anthony Cekada and Michael and Peter Dimond interpret the Catechism of Pope Pius X with an irrational premise and conclusion : they make the same mistake with Vatican Council II.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/bishop-donald-sanborn-bishop-daniel.html
February 11, 2020
Rome Life Forum 2020 speakers interpret Vatican Council II with the irrational premise, inference and conclusion to create a false rupture with Tradition, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors, the Athanasius Creed etc.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/rome-life-forum-2020-speakers-interpret.html
February 11, 2020
Lepanto Foundation,Correspondenza Romano, Radici Cristiane,RadioRomalibera of Roberto dei Mattei do not rationally interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms, EENS, BOD, BOB and I.I and the Catechism of Pope Pius X : an irrational premise, inference and conclusion is used.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/lepanto-foundationcorrespondenza-romano.html
February 6, 2020
February 6, 2020
February 6, 2020
Angelus Press-approved books also follow this model
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/angelus-press-approved-books-also.html
February 6, 2020
St.John Lateran University library for research on Vatican Council II follows this model : all the books on Vatican Council II are written with a false premise
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/stjohn-lateran-university-library-for.html
February 6, 2020
Pope Francis' books also follow this model : They interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/02/pope-francis-books-also-follow-this.html
February 7, 2020
BOD(
Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the
baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved
and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible
ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven
without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG 8 (
Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the
Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true
Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen
Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who
desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is
allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
LG 16 (
Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the
Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith
and the baptism of water)
UR 3 (Unitatitis
Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the unknown
Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith or the
baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to
someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA 2(
Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside
the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with
good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth
which enlightens all mankind.
GS 22 (Gaudium
et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is saved outside
the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and baptism but
with goodwill.
https://ika.hkm.hr/english/statement-from-the-twenty-first-joint-session-of-the-croatan-conference-of-bishops-and-the-bishops-conference-of-bosnia-and-herzegovina/
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