Michael Sean Winters, Massimo Faggioli, John Allen jr and Joshua McElwee agree that even though Yves Congar, Karl Rahner, Richard Cushing and Joseph Ratzinger were there at Vatican Council II. the Council can be interpreted with the rational premise, inference and conclusion. Then it will be in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church, an ecumenism of return and 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), with no known exceptions. None of them are disputing this.

So Michael Sean Winters, Massimo Faggioli, John Allen jr and  Joshua McElwee  agree that even though Yves Congar, Karl Rahner, Richard Cushing and Joseph Ratzinger were there at Vatican Council II. the Council can be interpreted with the rational premise, inference and conclusion. Then it will be in harmony with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church, an ecumenism of return and 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), with no known exceptions.

None of them are disputing this.

 

 

They also agree that when the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood (BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are interpreted with the rational premise, inference and conclusion, they are not practical exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.They do not contradict Feeneyite EENS.So the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made an objective mistake.The cardinal who issued the Letter assumed unknown cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I were known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(Holy Office ) made a mistake in 1949 and the mistake was repeated at Vatican Council II. In Ad Gentes 7 for example, BOD and I.I are mentioned with reference to all needing faith and baptism for salvation.BOD and I.I were really irrelevant to EENS.
 

So the CDF Secretaries would also be wrong to ask Brother Andre Marie MICM and the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire,to interpret unknown cases of being saved in invincible ignorance as exceptions to EENS. 

They have officially asked the community of Fr. Leonard Feeney to interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( CCC 847-848 on Invincible ignorance) as being exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.The CDF Secretaries Morandi and Di Noia use the false premise, inference and conclusion to interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church. 

The National Catholic Reporter, Crux and Commonweal correspondents agree with me.The Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II do not contradict Feeneyite EENS.The post Vatican Council II ecclesiology is the same as that of the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.

Neihter do any of the correspondents at the National Catholic Register, EWTN and Catholic Answers have any objections.I have e-mailed them these blog posts.-Lionel Andrades  
TERMS CLARIFIED 

 BOD( Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)

BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)

I.I (Invincible ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)

LG 8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true Church of Christ allegedly subsists.

 LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14:  Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)

LG 16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith and the baptism of water) 

UR 3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).

NA 2(  Nostra Aetate 2: The case of  the unknown non Catholic saved outside the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth which enlightens all mankind.

GS 22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and baptism but with goodwill.

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