Tuesday, June 8, 2021

Repost : Louie Verrecchio interprets Vatican Council II with the red passages and so the Council emerges as a rupture with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc) : Unitatis Redintigratio 3 really does not contradict an ecumenism of return. So there is no theological basis for the New Ecumenism

 

APRIL 25, 2021

Louie Verrecchio interprets Vatican Council II with the red passages and so the Council emerges as a rupture with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc) : Unitatis Redintigratio 3 really does not contradict an ecumenism of return. So there is no theological basis for the New Ecumenism

 Vatican Council II teaches that, in addition to the Catholic Church, there are numerous communities of salvation, namely, the heretical and schismatic communities that Our Lord allegedly uses as “means of salvation” (See UR 3). This same Council also insists upon man’s right to religious liberty (Dignitatis Humanae), which has been described by Benedict XVI as “the freedom to choose and practice religion, and the freedom to change it, as fundamental human rights and freedoms.”

Neither of these propositions are reconcilable with the constant teaching of the Catholic Church; the former makes meaningless the doctrine extra Ecclesiam nulla salus, while the latter is condemned nearly verbatim in the Syllabus of Errors (no. 15) of Pope Pius IX.  - The Post-Conciliar Institution: True Church or counterfeit?   


 Louie Verrecchio interprets Vatican Council II with the red passages and so the Council emerges as a rupture with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors etc).

I interpret Vatican Council II with the blue passages. So Unitatis Redintigratio  would refer to only hypothetical cases in the present times. So they do not contradict the Syllabus of Errors on an Ecumenism of Return.

Why should Catholics continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the irrationality. They can affirm the Council with the rational premise and so there is no rupture with the past Magisterium and the old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. 


BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Fake premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically visible cases in 1949-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.They are examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Fake conclusion
So they contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE

Rational Premise

The Baptism of Desire, Baptism of Blood and Invincible Ignorance refer to physically invisible cases in 1949-2021
They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.They are not examples of known non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Rational Conclusion
They do not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.They do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.
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VATICAN COUNCIL II

Fake premise

Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium 14(Baptism of Desire), Lumen Gentium 16 (Invincible ignorance) etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

VATICAN COUNCIL II

Rational Premise
 Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Lumen Gentium  14 and Lumen Gentium 16  in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
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