I cannot go up to receive the Eucharist at Holy Mass
in my parish, Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, since the
Brazilian priests will not affirm the Athanasius Creed for political reasons.It was the same with the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate priests and seminarians last year in the parish.
They have changed the Nicene and Apostles Creed with a
fake premise.
They interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.So the
Council contradicts the past Catechisms, the Syllabus of Errors and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla
salus(EENS).This is a mortal sin of faith.
According to Canon Law a Parish Priest has to be a
Catholic and affirm the Creed. My interpretation of the Creed is traditional.
Theirs is not.It is the common irrational version with the false premise.
To interpret the Apostles and Nicene Creed with a
false premise is a mortal sin.
To reject the Athanasius Creed is a mortal sin.This is
a scandal. It is public. These are good priests. Good persons.I am not condemning them. I am pointing out to what the Church judges as being a mortal sin.
We have a problem here.
I live in the parish premises and where I live there
is no electricity. I am writing this at night. Time unknown. I have a marker
pen and the moonlight is enough.
It was the same with the Franciscan Friars of the
Immaculate and the seminarians, who were here in the parish, last year. They
would not affirm the Catholic faith in public.
Fr.Giuseppe Grioni f.i the former Parish Priest, at
Santa Maria di Nazareth, would however affirm the dogma EENS and would
criticize the gender ideology.
The Franciscans of the Immaculate publication on mission, Christ to the World (Christo al Mondo) stated in an edition, that the Church had not rescinded the dogma EENS.The editor was Fr. Angelo who offers Mass today at the Basilica St.Mary Majors, Rome.
However the Rector of the seminary Fr. Rosario
Sammarco f.i, who also offers Mass in Italian at St. Mary Majors, would not
affirm the Creeds and Catechisms with the rational premise. He would also
interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise. At a conference of the Franciscans of the Immaculate, before the split, he would state that the Council is
pastoral and project the Council as a rupture with Tradition, as does Pope
Francis. The seminarians are still expected to the same in Rome.
The Brazilian priests do not affirm the
Creeds, Catechisms, Vatican Council and
EENS without the fake premise and so in continuity with the past Magisterium of
the Church.We do not have unity on even the First Commandmen. They do not deny all this. They actually agree with me. -Lionel Andrades
JUNE 2, 2018
Church Not Retracted Outside the Church No Salvationhttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/church-not-retracted-outside-church-no.html
NOVEMBER 18, 2011
THE CHURCH IS MISSION- Pope Benedict XVI (Christ to the World July-October 2011) https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/11/church-is-mission-pope-benedict-xvi.html
MARCH 9, 2010
SEPTEMBER 27, 2009
CHURCH NOT RETRACTED OUTSIDE THE CHURCH NO SALVATION https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2009/09/church-not-retracted-outside-church-no.html
_____________________________________MAY 31, 2021How can Catechists and priests in my parish and diocese , not affirm the Creeds in public and continue to interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise ? In my parish the Catechists do not affirm the Athanasius Creed, change the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creed, re-interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with a false premise, reject the dogma extra eccclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church) and attend Holy Mass.
Those who teach the young children include, dedicated persons , well meaning Italians, like Giorgio and Ennio. But not to affirm the Creed in public is a mortal sin.
Then they teach the same errors to the children and assist at Holy Mass.
Even the priests of the diocese are not affirming the Catholic faith in the diocese of Porta Santa Rufina, Rome where the bishop was Gino Reali.
How can Catechists and priests not affirm the Creeds in public and interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise ?
-Lionel Andrades
MAY 30, 2021In my parish the priests are not saying that they affirm the Athanasius Creed, that they interpret the Nicene and Apostles Creed rationally,and that they interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechisms, without the false premise. They actually agree with me.In my parish the priests are not saying that they affirm the Athanasius Creed, that they interpret the Nicene and Apostles Creed rationally,and that they interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechisms, without the false premise.
_____________________________________MAY 31, 2021How can Catechists and priests in my parish and diocese , not affirm the Creeds in public and continue to interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise ?
In my parish the Catechists do not affirm the Athanasius Creed, change the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creed, re-interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with a false premise, reject the dogma extra eccclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church) and attend Holy Mass.
Those who teach the young children include, dedicated persons , well meaning Italians, like Giorgio and Ennio. But not to affirm the Creed in public is a mortal sin.
Then they teach the same errors to the children and assist at Holy Mass.
Even the priests of the diocese are not affirming the Catholic faith in the diocese of Porta Santa Rufina, Rome where the bishop was Gino Reali.
How can Catechists and priests not affirm the Creeds in public and interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise ?
-Lionel Andrades
They actually agree with me. They choose heresy, schism and irrationality as if this is some 'New Information' they have to accept to remain priests.
They do not deny what I have written on this blog.Pope Francis could call this 'going forward'.But we cannot support sin and Satan and go forward. -Lionel Andrades
MAY 30, 2021
In my parish the priests reject the Athanasius Creed, change the Nicene and Apostles Creed and re-interpet Vatican Council II irrationally and do not deny it. They agree with me!
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/in-my-parish-priests-reject-athanasius.html
MAY 30, 2021We cannot change Aristotle's laws of logic or use a false premise to create a New Theology and call it Catholic or Magisterial, in the parish. They must not lie, give false information and then pretend it is Catholic. Pope Benedict needs to apologise for this non Catholic philosophy and theology he promoted all these years We cannot change Aristotle's laws of logic or use a false premise to create a New Theology and call it Catholic or Magisterial, in the parish.They must mot lie, give false information and then pretend it is Catholic.Jesus is also the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.The laws of philosophy and theology in the Catholic Church have been changed at large and officially and so the interpretation of Vatican Council II and Magisterial documents are not Catholic or Magisterial.So Catholics are not obliged to follow them.Pope Benedict needs to apologise for this non Catholic philosophy and theology he promoted all these years, for political or other reasons. - Lionel Andrades_________________________
MAY 30, 2021In my parish the priests have changed the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creed and rejected the Athanasius Creed and they offer Holy Mass in Italian. They interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to project a non traditional conclusion and then then offer Holy Mass.They interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to project a non traditional conclusion and then then offer Holy Mass.With a fake premise they have made the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the old Catechisms obsolete and they offer Holy Mass.They do not deny what I have written here.It's official for them. It is all public.They offer the Sacrament of Confession, for reconciliation with God.They consider it important and necessary- and it is. It's a gift of God, given to the Catholic priest, for all of us,to save us from going to Hell, with mortal sins on our soul.Most people are going to Hell since they die with mortal sins on their soul.They also die outside the Catholic Church;without Catholic faith and the baptism of water(AG 7).The Gospel at Sunday Mass today tells us that Jesus wanted every one to be baptised with water and to follow his teachings in the Catholic Church.This was the only Church he founded.It is the only Church which existed at the time he was in Jerusalem. -Lionel Andrades________________________
MAY 29, 2021Scandal at my parishI affirm the Athanasius Creed (Whoever desires to be saved should above all hold to the catholic faith.Anyone who does not keep it whole and unbroken will doubtless perish eternally...)in the parish but the priests and many of the parishioners do not do the same.I live in the parish, Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea.It is a 20-minute drive from Rome's Battistini Metro Station.How can they offer/attend Holy Mass and not affirm the infallible teaching of the Athanasius Creed?I affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally in the parish but the priests and most of the parishioners do not do so.For me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are practical exceptions for the Athanasius Creed. In other words, they refer to known non Catholics saved outside the Church. They refer to physically visible people saved without faith and the baptism of water.Invisible and unknown people cannot be exceptions to the Creed. So with this irrationality they make the Athanasius Creed obsolete.My interpretation of Vatican Council II is rational and traditional.It is not a break with the Creeds.
How can the priests and people offer/attend Holy Mass with an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II etc ?When the priests and people in the parish do not affirm the Athanasius Creed and Vatican Council II, do they no have to go for the Sacrament of Confession, end the scandal and correct themselves in public ?For me the baptism of desire(BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases only. I cannot meet or see someone saved as such.It is only God who can know if someone is saved with BOD and I.I. So there are no practical cases of BOD and I.I for me.There are also no practical exceptions to the past Magisterial ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.But with visible for them,BOD and I.I, the priests and catechists and others in the parish, reject the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
They change the interpretation of Vatican Council II.Since for them, LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, etc contradict the dogma EENS. There are practical exceptions for them.So they have rejected the dogma EENS and the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation.
They actually agree with me. They choose heresy, schism and irrationality as if this is some 'New Information' they have to accept to remain priests.
They do not deny what I have written on this blog.
Pope Francis could call this 'going forward'.But we cannot support sin and Satan and go forward. -Lionel Andrades
MAY 30, 2021
In my parish the priests reject the Athanasius Creed, change the Nicene and Apostles Creed and re-interpet Vatican Council II irrationally and do not deny it. They agree with me!
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/in-my-parish-priests-reject-athanasius.html
They have changed the meaning of the Nicene Creed. It is " I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church( so EENS is rejected)".
They have changed the meaning of the Apostles Creed. It is " I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church,'which teaches the Catholic Church today that there is known salvation outside the Church and so the Creeds and Catechisms are obsolete in their old understanding".
They have changed the meaning of the First Commandment which now indicates for them that outside the Catholic Church there is known salvation and so there is true worship in non Christian religions.
This is public heresy, scandal and schism and Holy Mass is offered/ attended, by all in the parish.
This scandal has to be rectified in public, before absolution is given in the Confessional. -Lionel Andrades
https://www.smnazaret.it/
They have changed the meaning of the Nicene Creed. It is " I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church( so EENS is rejected)".
They have changed the meaning of the Apostles Creed. It is " I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church,'which teaches the Catholic Church today that there is known salvation outside the Church and so the Creeds and Catechisms are obsolete in their old understanding".
They have changed the meaning of the First Commandment which now indicates for them that outside the Catholic Church there is known salvation and so there is true worship in non Christian religions.
This is public heresy, scandal and schism and Holy Mass is offered/ attended, by all in the parish.
This scandal has to be rectified in public, before absolution is given in the Confessional. -Lionel Andrades
https://www.smnazaret.it/
MAY 28, 2021
Priests are expected to affirm the Athanasius Creed in the parish. Vatican Council II according to Lionel Andrades is not a rupture
Visit my parish
Visit my parish
I saw a publicity vehicle moving at Cornelia, Rome saying there would be a talk at Boccea. Matteo Salvini was to speak.I thought that he needs to call for the interpretation of Vatican Council II without the false premise.This is a political issue he must address.
If a fake premise is used then there is a break with the historical Catholic Church, a break with the traditional Catholic Church which Salvini supports.
So the Lega needs to affirm Vatican Council II ( rational) and even make it a part of their manifesto.
For instance, in the churches at Boccea, the Left forces the priests, to create a rupture with the historicl Catholic Church and this is approved by Pope Francis.
Pope Francis ‘ interpretation of Vatican Council II is political and not Magisterial. He would have to interpret the Council with the rational premise, inference and conclusion, for Vatican Council II to be Magisterial. He must not deliberately continue to use the fake premise to interpreta the Council. This is a political issue for the Left which the Lega must address.
He could visit my parish in Boccea, the church Santa Maria di Nazareth and ask the priests to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and not with falsehood. Tell the people that political candidates who support abortion and homosexual acts are in mortal sin and voting for them in cooperating in this mortal sin. This is politically non separation of the Leftist state and the Church.The Parish Priests cannot ask that the Mayor of Rome be a Catholic, who interprets Vatican Council II rationally.This would be the separation of the Leftist State and the Church.
The Rome Vicarate does not allow any Parish Priests to publically support any candidate for the Mayor’s office but allows him to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and then in an indirect way support the Left. So the priest cannot say that outside the Church there is no salvation.Since with the premise there is salvation. And so all must be Catholic to avoid Hell and so it is necessary that Government also be Catholic.
Presently there is the non separation of Church and State in Rome where the pontifical universities have to interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise, create a rupture with Tradition and then be able to receive funds.
If they used the rational premise, inference and non tradtional conclusion to interpret that Council they would be black listed.Since then they would be supporting exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, like the historical Church in Italy.
So the professors and students to avoid being expelled interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms etc with the irrational premise and create the break with Tradition, which is presently approved by the Leftist government in Italy.
With the fake premise the Council is a break with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.New doctrines are created on Ecumenism, Evangelisation etc.
The New Theology created with the false premise says outside the Church there is known salvation. There are known non Catholics saved without faith and baptism and ias referenced in LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc of Vatican Council II. So when there are known people saved outside the Church in 1965-2021, it is asked by Pope Benedict, and others, why have traditional Mission? He supports the Left.
Why also proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politically legislation and the non separation of Church and State , he may ask.So the Parish Priests in Boccea, Rome where Matteo Salvini visited and spoke do not proclaim that it is necessary that Government should also be Catholic.
He could visit my parish and talk to the priests and parishioners. Tell them to interpret the Council without the common false premise, approved by the leftist government. -Lionel Andrades
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Visit my parish
I saw a publicity vehicle moving at Cornelia, Rome saying there would be a talk at Boccea. Matteo Salvini was to speak.I thought that he needs to call for the interpretation of Vatican Council II without the false premise.This is a political issue he must address.
If a fake premise is used then there is a break with the historical Catholic Church, a break with the traditional Catholic Church which Salvini supports.
So the Lega needs to affirm Vatican Council II ( rational) and even make it a part of their manifesto.
For instance, in the churches at Boccea, the Left forces the priests, to create a rupture with the historicl Catholic Church and this is approved by Pope Francis.
Pope Francis ‘ interpretation of Vatican Council II is political and not Magisterial. He would have to interpret the Council with the rational premise, inference and conclusion, for Vatican Council II to be Magisterial. He must not deliberately continue to use the fake premise to interpreta the Council. This is a political issue for the Left which the Lega must address.
He could visit my parish in Boccea, the church Santa Maria di Nazareth and ask the priests to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and not with falsehood. Tell the people that political candidates who support abortion and homosexual acts are in mortal sin and voting for them in cooperating in this mortal sin. This is politically non separation of the Leftist state and the Church.The Parish Priests cannot ask that the Mayor of Rome be a Catholic, who interprets Vatican Council II rationally.This would be the separation of the Leftist State and the Church.
The Rome Vicarate does not allow any Parish Priests to publically support any candidate for the Mayor’s office but allows him to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and then in an indirect way support the Left. So the priest cannot say that outside the Church there is no salvation.Since with the premise there is salvation. And so all must be Catholic to avoid Hell and so it is necessary that Government also be Catholic.
Presently there is the non separation of Church and State in Rome where the pontifical universities have to interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise, create a rupture with Tradition and then be able to receive funds.
If they used the rational premise, inference and non tradtional conclusion to interpret that Council they would be black listed.Since then they would be supporting exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, like the historical Church in Italy.
So the professors and students to avoid being expelled interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms etc with the irrational premise and create the break with Tradition, which is presently approved by the Leftist government in Italy.
With the fake premise the Council is a break with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.New doctrines are created on Ecumenism, Evangelisation etc.
The New Theology created with the false premise says outside the Church there is known salvation. There are known non Catholics saved without faith and baptism and ias referenced in LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc of Vatican Council II. So when there are known people saved outside the Church in 1965-2021, it is asked by Pope Benedict, and others, why have traditional Mission? He supports the Left.
Why also proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politically legislation and the non separation of Church and State , he may ask.So the Parish Priests in Boccea, Rome where Matteo Salvini visited and spoke do not proclaim that it is necessary that Government should also be Catholic.
He could visit my parish and talk to the priests and parishioners. Tell them to interpret the Council without the common false premise, approved by the leftist government. -Lionel Andrades
JUNE 5, 2021
Catholic priests agree with me on five points but will not proclaim them in public
The present and past priests at the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth,Casalotti, Boccea, near Rome's Battistini Metro Station,agree with the FIVE POINTS earlier but in public they will not affirm Vatican Council II,interpreted without the false premise. They will not proclaim Vatican Council II without confusing what is invisible as being visible and then projecting practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.So while Lionel Andrades affirms these Magisterial documents rationally, they have to deny them as being obsolete and contradicted by Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise.The false premise creates exceptions.They have to deny the Athanasius Creed and exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church because of the false premise which creates a non traditional conclusion.Lionel Andrades can affirm the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q) which is not in conflict with hypothetical cases of being saved invincible ignorance, which is mentioned in that Catechism.The priests from the two religious communities, who offer Holy Mass in Italian, cannot do the same.They cannot do so since being saved in invincible ignorance is not hypothetical for them. If it was hypothetical it would not be an exception to the strict interpretation of EENS. It would mean that they would have to affirm the strict interpretation of EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors. So they reject the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24Q,27Q).-Lionel Andrades
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JUNE 5, 2021
Catholic priests in the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Rome agree with me on five points
In the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, near the Battistini Metro Station, there have been two religious communities housed there, the Joseleitos Christo and the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate.This is also the parish of Lionel Andrades according to his blog Eucharist and Mission( Lionel's Blog).The religious communities there agree with him on the following five points.
1.They agree that there are no physically visible cases of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire over the last 60 years in Italy.If any one was saved as such it would only be known to God.2.They agree that there are no physically visible non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water over the last 60 years in Italy.If any one was saved as such it would be known only to God.3.The priests of the two religious communities agree with Lionel Andrades when he says that we do not know of any one in the present times who is saved as a martyr(baptism of blood)and without the baptism of water.If St.Emerentiana or Dismas, the Good Thief, was saved without the baptism of water,we do not know of any such case over the last few years or more in Italy.4.So the baptism of desire,baptism of blood and invincible ignorance cannot be practical examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.They cannot be practical exceptions for the Athanasius Creed.It says outside the Church there is no salvation.They cannot be practical exceptions for Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II, which says all need faith and baptism for salvation(to avoid Hell).The Catholic priests agree on this point too.5.So there can be nothing in Vatican Council II ( interpreted rationally) to contradict the Athanasius Creed and Pope Pius IX's Syllabus of Errors.Since LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, can refer to only hypothetical cases.They are speculative. They are not practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Cantate Domino, Council of florence 1441 etc).None of these FIVE POINTS are denied by the religious communities Joseleitos Christo and the Franciscans of the Immaculate in the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth.This is the parish in which Pope Francis closed down the seminary of the Franciscans of the Immaculate.-Lionel Andradeshttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/06/catholic-priests-in-parish-santa-maria.html
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In the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, near the Battistini Metro Station, there have been two religious communities housed there, the Joseleitos Christo and the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate.This is also the parish of Lionel Andrades according to his blog Eucharist and Mission( Lionel's Blog).The religious communities there agree with him on the following five points.
JUNE 4, 2021
They agree with me : A Catholic should be elected Mayor of Rome : Vatican Council II must be the test of being a Catholic
The priests of the Joseleitos de Christo community at the church Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, in principle agree that there are no objective examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church in 2021.There are no practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the present times (1965-2021).There are no physically visible cases of non Catholics, saved with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water and Catholic faith.We cannot see or meet someone who is an exception to the norm for salvation i.e faith and baptism (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II).This was also the view of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, who were last year in this parish. They too agree with me.The Rector of Francisican Friar seminary in the parish was Fr. Rosario Sammarco f.i and Parish Priest, Fr.Giuseppe Grioni f.i.The seminary is closed and the building is under the management of the Comitato dell Immaculata, set up originally by Fr. Stefano Mannelli f.i.
In the parish today the Parish Priest Fr.Francisco De Barros Barbosa, sjc in public interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise. If he did not use the false premise, Vatican Council II (AG 7) would affirm the past ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church, an exclusivist ecclesiology, the old traditional theology of outside the Church there is no salvation and the need to proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in all national politics in Italy.
However he agrees with me - there are no objective exceptions to EENS. There are no physically visible cases of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water and Catholic faith.
The priests of the Joseleitos di Christo and Franciscans of the Immaculate need to tell Catholics and especially parishioners, to vote only for candidates for the Mayor's office in Rome, who interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise.They would be true Catholics. With Vatican Council II ( rational) they would be affirming EENS.So based upon EENS they could proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King ( Quas Primas ) in all political legislation.Since outside the Church there is no known salvation the priority is that all accept the norm for salvation-faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, to avoid Hell.
We all agree that if there was any one saved outside the Catholic Church it could only be known to God.So Catholic faith and the baptism of water is still the norm and the priority to go to Heaven and avoid Hell for all people with no known exceptions.-Lionel Andrades
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The priests of the Joseleitos de Christo community at the church Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, in principle agree that there are no objective examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church in 2021.There are no practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the present times (1965-2021).There are no physically visible cases of non Catholics, saved with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water and Catholic faith.We cannot see or meet someone who is an exception to the norm for salvation i.e faith and baptism (Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II).This was also the view of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, who were last year in this parish. They too agree with me.The Rector of Francisican Friar seminary in the parish was Fr. Rosario Sammarco f.i and Parish Priest, Fr.Giuseppe Grioni f.i.The seminary is closed and the building is under the management of the Comitato dell Immaculata, set up originally by Fr. Stefano Mannelli f.i.
In the parish today the Parish Priest Fr.Francisco De Barros Barbosa, sjc in public interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise. If he did not use the false premise, Vatican Council II (AG 7) would affirm the past ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church, an exclusivist ecclesiology, the old traditional theology of outside the Church there is no salvation and the need to proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King in all national politics in Italy.
However he agrees with me - there are no objective exceptions to EENS. There are no physically visible cases of non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance and without the baptism of water and Catholic faith.
The priests of the Joseleitos di Christo and Franciscans of the Immaculate need to tell Catholics and especially parishioners, to vote only for candidates for the Mayor's office in Rome, who interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise.They would be true Catholics. With Vatican Council II ( rational) they would be affirming EENS.So based upon EENS they could proclaim the Social Reign of Christ the King ( Quas Primas ) in all political legislation.Since outside the Church there is no known salvation the priority is that all accept the norm for salvation-faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, to avoid Hell.
We all agree that if there was any one saved outside the Catholic Church it could only be known to God.So Catholic faith and the baptism of water is still the norm and the priority to go to Heaven and avoid Hell for all people with no known exceptions.-Lionel Andrades
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JUNE 3, 2021
In my parish the priests interpret Vatican Council II irrationally instead of rationally even after being informed.
JUNE 2, 2021
In my parish the priests do not affirm the Athanasius Creed.
In may parish, Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, the priests do not affirm the Athanasius Creed. They change the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creed with the use of a false premise.They re-interpret Vatican Council II with the same fake premise and change the interpretations of all the Catechisms.They do consider this a mortal sin of faith.They about 'new information' and 'being open' and 'following Pope Francis'. Do they believe in the secrecy of the Sacrament of Confession ? Really? Why ? -Lionel Andrades
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In may parish, Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, the priests do not affirm the Athanasius Creed. They change the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creed with the use of a false premise.They re-interpret Vatican Council II with the same fake premise and change the interpretations of all the Catechisms.They do consider this a mortal sin of faith.They about 'new information' and 'being open' and 'following Pope Francis'. Do they believe in the secrecy of the Sacrament of Confession ? Really? Why ? -Lionel Andrades
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JUNE 1, 2021
Often it is the pope who transfers conservative religious. This time it was a lay organisation which transferred liberal religious, in Rome.
In the parish of Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Pope Francis closed down the seminary of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in Rome.The seminary building and adjoining property is now held by the Comitato dell Immaculata, formed by Fr. Stefano Manelli f.i.
In the parish of Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Pope Francis closed down the seminary of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in Rome.The seminary building and adjoining property is now held by the Comitato dell Immaculata, formed by Fr. Stefano Manelli f.i.
I affirm the Athanasius Creed
I affirm the Athanasius Creed,interpret the Nicene and Apostles Creed rationally,interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and do not use the false premise to interpret the Catechisms of Trent, Baltimore, Pius X, John Paul II etc.The Catechism of the Catholic Church is not a break with Tradition for me.I do not employ the false premise, inference and conclusion of cardinals Ratzinger and Schonborn.I interpret Vatican Council II rationally with the hermeneutic of continity with Feeneyite EENS, the Deposit of Faith and the popes and saints of the past.My interpretation of Church document is Magisterial,since it is rational, traditional and in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.The present two popes interpretation of Magisterial documents with the false premise is not Magisterial. It is political. -Lionel Andrades
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I affirm the Athanasius Creed,interpret the Nicene and Apostles Creed rationally,interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and do not use the false premise to interpret the Catechisms of Trent, Baltimore, Pius X, John Paul II etc.The Catechism of the Catholic Church is not a break with Tradition for me.I do not employ the false premise, inference and conclusion of cardinals Ratzinger and Schonborn.I interpret Vatican Council II rationally with the hermeneutic of continity with Feeneyite EENS, the Deposit of Faith and the popes and saints of the past.My interpretation of Church document is Magisterial,since it is rational, traditional and in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.The present two popes interpretation of Magisterial documents with the false premise is not Magisterial. It is political. -Lionel Andrades
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