Saturday, November 20, 2021

There is no denial from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They agree with me!

 

SATURDAY, MAY 8, 2021

Repost : No denial from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They agree with me!

 

MAY 7, 2021

There is no denial from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They agree with me!

 There is no denial from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.They agree with me!They agree with me, when I write that Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not Magisterial on Vatican Council II and the Creeds, Catechisms etc, since they interpret them with the false premise, instead of without it, they use the irrational red passages instead of the rational blue ones, so they create an artificial hermeneutic of rupture when there really is a continuity with Tradition if they would avoid the false premise, inference and conclusion.

So Bishop Robert Barron received the million dollar Templeton Foundation since he used the  false premise to interpret Vatcian Council II. 

Prof. Alberto Melloni would not continue to receive a million euros from the Italian government,  if he had used the blue passages to interpret Vatican Council II. 

Ralph Martin remains on the Vatican offices for the New Evangelisation  since he chooses to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise, which is not Magisterial.This was approved by Pope Benedict. 

The Holy Spirit guides the teaching authority of the Catholic Church and we  refer to this as the Magisterium. 

The Holy Spirit cannot guide the Church to choose a false premise and make an objective error in observation, which results in a break with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church and a rupture with the Creeds and Catechisms and Tradition in general. There cannot be a development of doctrine based upon a fake premise. This is deception or human error.It is not the teaching of the Holy Spirit. -Lionel Andrades

 APRIL 14, 2021

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational option

 


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict are not magisterial on Vatican Council II since they interpret the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion ( red passages below) instead of the rational option( blue passages below).

To be Magisterial they need to interpret Vatican Council II with 'the blue passages'.

The Holy Spirit cannot make an objective mistake and choose 'the red passages'. -Lionel Andrades



Fake premise

Lumen Gentium 8,Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.

Fake inference
They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church.

Fake conclusion
Vatican Council II contradicts the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).The Athanasius Creed(outside the Church there is no salvation) and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return) were made obsolete.

Here is my interpretation of Vatican Council II in blue.

Rational Premise
LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc in Vatican Council II refer to physically invisible cases in 1965-2021.They are only hypothetical and theoretical. They exist only in our mind and are not solid bodies at Newton's level of time, space and matter.

Rational Inference
They are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

Rational Conclusion
Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was interpreted by the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.It does not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS of St. Thomas Aquinas( saved in invincible ignorance is invisible), St. Augustine and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
The Letter of the Holy Office(Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) 1949 made an objective mistake.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/there-is-no-denial-from-congregation.html
Lionel Andrades
Catholic lay man in Rome,
Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?
Blog: Eucharist and Mission
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SUNDAY, OCTOBER 11, 2020

For Cardinal Ladaria Lumen Gentium 8 was an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS)at the Plaquet Deo Press Conference 2016.So he has changed the meaning of the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II. This is official irrationality and heresy from the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

 For Cardinal Ladaria Lumen Gentium 8 was an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS)at the Plaquet Deo Press Conference 2016.So he has changed the meaning of the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II. This is official irrationality and heresy from the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.-Lionel Andrades 




OCTOBER 11, 2020

The ecclesiastics would agree that this is all heresy. They are not Feeneyites.There is no denial from them.

 Extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) has exceptions for Cardinal Luiz Ladaria and Archbishop Morandi and Di Noia.So the baptism of desire (BOD) and invincible ignorance (I.I) are visible for them to be exceptions.Hypothetical and theoretical cases of the BOD and I.I would be objective exceptions to EENS. These ecclesiastics of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) are Cushingites and not Feeneyites.

So the Athanasius Creed has exceptions!It says all need Catholic faith for salvation and the CDF says ,'No not all. There are exceptions'.This would be heresy in the 16th century.Heresy with the use of a false premise.

In the Nicene Creed we pray, 'One baptism for the forgiveness of sins'.Now it is three known baptisms, blood, ignorance and desire.They all exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. This is what makes them exceptions to EENS.So this is innovation.It is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed.

The Apostles Creed indicates the Holy Spirit guides the Church to say outside the Church there is known salvation. When all these centuries the Holy Spirit taught the Church that outside the Church there is no salvation.This is a big change in theology.

For the CDF, in Vatican Council II, LG 16 is a rupture with EENS. For me there is no rupture. So this is a peculiar interpretation of the Council by the CDF. They use the false premise to interpret LG 16 and then reject EENS.This would be a heretical interpretation of Vatican Council II for me.

With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X would contradict itself. Invincible ignorance mentioned in the Catechism would contradict Feeneyite 24Q and 27 Q.Cardinal Ladaria and the Archbishops use a false premise to interpret invincible ignorance.

The ecclesiastics would agree that this is all heresy. They are not Feeneyites.There has been no denial. -Lionel Andrades


OCTOBER 10, 2020

Presently all Cardinal Luiz Ladaria's books, articles and thesis on Vatican Council II and Church Ecclesiology are written with a false premise, false inference and non traditional conclusion. He needs to resign as the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The International Theological Commission should be closed down. He is protected by the liberal media. They do not want the Church to return to the past, theologically.


OCTOBER 10, 2020

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, needs to resign. At the Plaquet Deo Press Conference(2016) he presented Lumen Gentium 8 as an exception to 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. This was when he was asked a question by an AP reporter.She wanted to know if the Church still taught that it had a superiority and exclusivness in salvation. This was subterfuge from Cardinal Ladaria, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.


 OCTOBER 10, 2020

Archbishops Morandi and Di Noia , Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, used the false premise in the interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (847-848). The Catechism of the Catholic Church(847-848-invincible ignorance) is speculative.It is always a reference to a speculative and theoretical case

 


Archbishops Morandi and Di Noia , Secretaries of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, used the false premise in the interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (847-848). The Catechism of the Catholic Church(847-848-invincible ignorance) is speculative.It is always a reference to a  speculative and theoretical case.

It is not a practical exception  to the Athanasius Creed or 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Jesuit missionaries.


They Archbishop-Secretaries of the CDF ended the dialogue with Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior at the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire.He was not allow to come to Rome to discuss the issue.The Judicial Vicar of the diocese imposed sanctions.The CDF knew that their theological position was political.
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made an objective error.

 In principle hypothetical cases  were considered objective exceptions to EENS, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.. -Lionel Andrades

13, 2021

The Department of Theology at the Pontifical University St. John Lateran, Rome have been informed that there are two options in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and they are using the irrational one

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-department-of-theology-at.html

APRIL 13, 2021

The faculty at the Augustine Institute, Graduate School, Colorado interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to create a rupture with Catholic orthodoxy and then they claim on their website that they teach orthodoxy

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-faculty-at-augustine-institute.html

APRIL 13, 2021

There are articles/reports on Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise on the website of the traditionalists. They are there on the websites of the Most Holy Family Monastery, Catholicism.org,Most Holy Trinity Seminary,Novus Ordo Watch, Rorate Caeili, Remnant News, Correspondenza Romano etc. They need to be corrected

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/there-are-articlesreports-on-vatican.html

APRIL 13, 2021

Repost : Padre Pio Prayer Groups, Neo Catechumenal Way, Charismatic Renewal, all the religious communities, Diocesan priests... the SSPX Archbishop Gerhard Muller and Archbishop Augustine Di Noia

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-padre-pio-prayer-groups-neo.html


 APRIL 13, 2021

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican is not magisterial on Vatican Council II since he interprets the Council with the false premise, inference and conclusion instead of the rational and traditional option, in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church.

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-prefect-of_13.html

APRIL 13, 2021

Bishop Steven J.Lopes interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and conclusion.He would also be interpreting the Creeds and Catechisms with the same irrationality. This is an irregular issue. It is a canonical issue : he excommunicated Fr. Vaughn Treco for supporting Tradition and opposing the false interpretation of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/bishop-steven-jlopes-interprets-vatican.html

APRIL 13, 2021

All the books on Vatican Council II on display at the Society of St. Pius X (Fraternita Sacerdotale San Pio X) center in Albano, Italy are written with the false premise. New books need to be written on the Council, interpreted without the irrational premise, inference and conclusion   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/all-books-on-vatican-council-ii-on.html

 APRIL 12, 2021

Repost . The red is not an exception to the blue' : new extraordinary understanding of Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-new.html

 APRIL 12, 2021

Feeneyites do not have to deny the baptism of desire since BOD is always invisible and hypothetical, it never was a practical exception to EENS

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/feeneyites-do-not-have-to-deny-baptism.html

APRIL 12, 2021

Most of the material on Vatican Council II at the office of Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican Secretary of State and also at the library of the St. John Lateran University, Rome, is now obsolete

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/most-of-material-on-vatican-council-ii_53.html

APRIL 12, 2021

Most of the material on Vatican Council II on the Most Holy Family Monastery, USA website is now obsolete. It is the same for the Vatican websites

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/most-of-material-on-vatican-council-ii_12.html

APRIL 12, 2021

Most of the material on Vatican Council II on the SSPX websites is now obsolete

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/most-of-material-on-vatican-council-ii.html

APRIL 11, 2021

There is the Augustine Institute, Graduate School in Colorado, USA and there is the St. Augustine Institute of Wisdom, at the St. Benedict Center,New Hampshire,USA. I would recommend the latter

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/there-is-augustine-instiute-graduate.html

APRIL 11, 2021

Fr. Leonard Feeney, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Archbishop Pierre Thuc did not know that Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the false premise, inference and conclusion

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/for-fr-leonard-feeney-and-archbishop.html

APRIL 10, 2021

All these years the main line media in the USA and Europe have criticized Lefebvre and Feeney. What will they now do when they discover that Vatican Council II supports the two traditionalists ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/all-these-years-main-line-media-in-usa.html

 APRIL 9, 2021

Why should the readers of the Most Holy Family Monastery(MHFM) website interpret Vatican Council II like Michael and Peter Dimond and not like me ?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/why-should-readers-of-most-holy-family.html

 APRIL 9, 2021

The interpretation of Magisterial documents by the present two popes would be different from that of the popes before 1930,who did not use the false premise. The popes at that time were Feeneyites. Today they are Cushingites

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-interpretation-of-magisterial.html

 APRIL 9, 2021

It was not known to Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and Fr. Leonard Feeney : Vatican Council II is in harmony with 16th century EENS. There is no ' development of doctrine' 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/it-was-not-known-to-archbishop-marcel.html

APRIL 8, 2021

Repost : The Boston Heresy Case refers historic magisterial heresy in the Catholic Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-boston-heresy-case-refers.html

APRIL 8, 2021

Without the irrational premise the Council supports Tradition and the suspended priests. The Council without the false premise supports the priests and not the bishops : Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy and Mons. Luigi Negri

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/without-irrational-premise-council.html

APRIL 7, 2021

If Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre interpreted Vatican Council II without the false premise in 1965 there would be no liberal-traditionalist division in the Catholic Church today

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/if-archbishop-marcel-lefebvre.html

APRIL 7, 2021

Repost : Robert Kennedy asked Richard Cushing to suppress Fr. Leonard Feeney

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/repost-robert-kennedy-asked-richard.html

APRIL 6, 2021

When it is said that Lumen Gentium 16 ( invincible ignorance) is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and Catholic Tradition, this is a conclusion. The premise is that there are physically visible cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance.Otherwise there could not be exceptions. But this is a false premise

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/when-it-is-said-that-lumen-gentium-16.html

MARCH 14, 2021

So why did Vatican Council II mention salvation outside the Church, when there is no known salvation outside the Church?

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/so-why-did-vatican-council-ii-mention.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not.html
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MAY 4, 2021



Pope Francis' message on Catechetics is based upon the non Magisterial interpretation of Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( CCC 845,846,1257 etc). If he did not use the false premise, the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church would be the same before and after Vatican Council II and so would Catechetics

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/pope-francis-message-on-catechetics-is.html

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THERE CAN BE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE APOSTLES CREED AND THE NICENE CREED. 

How do you interpret the Apostles Creed at Holy Mass ?

There are two options, one rational and the other irrational, one traditional and the other non traditional, one heretical and the other non heretical, one schismatic and the other not a rupture with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church. Most Catholics choose the irrational version which is not prohibited by the popes, cardinals and bishops.

" I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" - Apostles Creed


Pope Francis and Pope Benedict 

1. Do you say in church, at Holy Mass when the Creed is prayed, " I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Catholic Church there is salvation, known salvation, there are visible non Catholics saved without faith and the baptism of water and so there is no communion with the saints on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed etc  ? 

Or,

Lionel:

2. Do you say in church at Mass , "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints" and then mean that the Holy Spirit guides the Church today to teach that outside the Church there is no known salvationthere are no physically visible non Catholics in 2021 saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so there is  communion with the saints - Francis of Assisi, Ignatius of Loyola, Francis Xavier, Catherine of Siena, Maximillian Kolbe etc - on extra ecclesiam nulla salus( with no exceptions, like in the 16th century) the Athanasius Creed which says all need to be Catholic for salvation, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return), Quas Primas of Pope Pius XI on the Proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political legislation etc ?


THERE ARE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE NICENE CREED. WHICH ONE IS YOURS ?

We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins - Nicene Creed

Lionel : 

1. There is one baptism for the forgiveness of sins, it is the baptism of water. It is physically visible and repeatable.

Or.

For Pope Francis and Pope Benedict  

2.There are more than three baptisms for the forgiveness of sins, they are known baptismspersonally visible. They are the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance. They exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and so are practical exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) as explained in the Letter of the Holy Office(CDF) 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. It was referenced also in Vatican Council II(Lumen Gentium 16).

When Pope Francis and Pope Benedict avoid the false premise, inference and conclusion their interpretation of the Creeds will be Magisterial and in harmony with the past Magisterium. There would be no hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/pope-francis-and-pope-benedict-are-not_14.html

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MAY 6, 2021

The Vatican's Congregation for Catholic Education has approved political theology, bad theology.Since the Left wants it for the Catholic Church

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/the-vaticans-congregation-for-catholic.html

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/there-is-no-denial-from-congregation.html

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