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It's immoral for Michael Sean Winters at the National Catholic Reporter to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally when he knows that there is a rational interpretation of the Council in harmony with Tradition and the ecclesiology of the Roman Missal of 1580

 

DECEMBER 24, 2021

It's immoral for Michael Sean Winters at the National Catholic Reporter to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally when he knows that there is a rational interpretation of the Council in harmony with Tradition and the ecclesiology of the Roman Missal of 1580

It's immoral for Michael Sean Winters at the National Catholic Reporter to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally when he knows that there is a rational interpretation of the Council in harmony with Tradition and the ecclesiology of the Roman Missal of 1580..



It is dishonest on is part and that of the editor of NCR Heidei Schlumpf.

It is dishonest on is part and that of the editor of NCR Heidei Schlumpf.

They choose to confuse what is invisible( LG 16 etc in 2021) as being visible ( practical exceptions for the Athanasius Creed and the extra ecclesiam nulla salus).Then with Vatican Council II allegedly contradicting EENS etc they mention the ‘reforms of Vatican Council II( interpreted irrationally)’

MSW also has reviewed the book of Fr. Jared Wick’s sj on Vatican Council II in which the author chose to interpret the Council with the common false premise instead of the rational premise. With the Rational Premise Fr. Wicks would have to write about a Vatican Council II which supports the concept of mission of St. Ignatius of Loyola and St. Francis Xavier.-Lionel Andrades


 DECEMBER 23, 2021

If Vatican Council II was interpreted with the Rational Premise, it would be honest and it would be in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church, inspired by the Holy Spirit

 US bishops should help Latin Massgoers understand purpose of Francis' new restrictions

...The problem was always a problem with bishops and clergy for whom the old rite became an expression of an ideological rejection of the Second Vatican Council...

Lionel : Note. The writer(MSW) knows that there can be two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one with a rational premise and the other without it , one with a traditional conclusion and the other without. But for ideological reasons he does not mention it. He continues to interpret Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise.

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...Other bishops, though not hostile to reform themselves, simply refused to sound the alarm or discipline those under their pastoral care who were demonstrating an increasing hostility to Vatican II.

Lionel: MSW knows that Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake Premise, by the National Catholic Reporter staff, creates schism and heresy and that  a rational alternative is available. If Vatican Council II is interpreted with the Rational Premise then the pastoral approach would also be different.There could no more be a New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology etc since the Council would support the past ecclesiocentrism. It would be an exposure of the so called 'reforms'.

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What is undeniable is that no one can think Francis is trying to dial back the reforming impetus of Vatican II.

Lionel : He is not going back, instead he is pushing ahead Vatican Council II interpreted with a Fake Premise and people now are aware of it.The writing is there on the wall.The foundations for the New Theology are no more there. They have been corrected and made known.

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 In fact, he has brought all the energy and creativity that have marked the reception of Vatican II in the church of Latin America to the chair of Peter and thence to the universal church. This pontificate has turned those who held their nose at Vatican II from skeptics into schismatics...

Lionel : His interpretation of Vatican Council II with the False Premise produces a conclusion which is schismatic and heretic. This cannot be Magisterial.If he interpreted Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise, it would be honest and it would be in harmony with the past Magisterium of the Catholic Church, inspired by the Holy Spirit.-Lionel Andrades


https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/us-bishops-should-help-latin-massgoers-understand-purpose-francis-new-restrictions?utm_source=NCR+List&utm_campaign=6ab1285383-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2021_12_21_07_16&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6981ecb02e-6ab1285383-230712586

WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE


Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

Twitter : @LionelAndrades1

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