Trent Horn cites Lumen Gentium 15 as a practical exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is irrational

Lumen Gentium 8,14,15 and 16 refer to hypothetical cases in 2022. They are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So Trent Horn in this video is choosing the Irrational Premise, Inference and Conclusion to interpret Lumen Gentium, in particular Lumen Gentium 15.

The common False Premise of the Catholic Answers apologists is : LG 8,14,15 and 16 refer to physically visible examples of salvation outside the Church.

Their inference is : LG 8,14,15 and 16 refer to examples of non Catholics saves outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water. So they contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).There are exceptions for EENS, which over the centuries had no known exceptions.

So their conclusion is : Vatican Council II contradicts the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. It makes the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX obsolete.

This is the irrational reasoning of Trent Horn.The apologists at Catholic Answers and EWTN for political reasons are not allowed to affirm the strict interpretation of EENS. Trent Horn and Jimmy Akins are on the staff on CA. If they affirm the past ecclesiocentrism they could lose their employment. It is the same for Raymond Arroyo at EWTN. -Lionel Andrades