I have said it before.
Everyone agrees with me.
At Holy Mass in Italian or
Latin everyone agrees with me. I could show them these three charts and they all will agree with me.
1)
Salvation Badge (extended)
2) Invisible cases in Vatican
Council II.
3) Exclusive salvation in the
Catholic Church today.
So they are all Feeneyite on extra
ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). They support, as Catholics, the dogma EENS
defined by the Fourth Lateran Council (1215),the Council of Florence,
Cantate Domino (1442), the Catechism of Pius X and the other catechisms, the
Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX, Vatican Council II and the
Catechism of the Catholic Church of Pope John Paul II, interpreted rationally.
They would all agree with me at the
Latin Mass at the SSPX chapel in Rome or the Salesian basilica of the Sacred
Heart, Termini, Rome. They would agree with me at the Paulist Fathers’ church
of St. Patrick, for the American community in Rome. It would be the same at the Daughters of St. Paul
book shop near the Vatican and the FSSP church in Rome.
So irrespective if they used the 1962
Missal or the New Missal they would agree with me on these three documents
above.
Why? Since I am saying something
obvious. It is common knowledge. It is common sense. It is a philosophical observation. It is something physically see by all people irrespective of their theology or religion. So even Pope Francis and
all the cardinals and bishops would have to agree with me. All.
The whole Church is really saying the same
thing as me. There is no division on this issue.
This is not a personal view only. It is
everyone’s view. Even the cardinals and
bishops at the Vatican
agree with me. - Lionel Andrades
1. SALVATION BADGE (Extended)
FUORI DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA
NON C’E SALVEZZA
(OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION)
GIOV.3:5, MC.16:16
(JOHN 3:5, MARK 16:16)
CONCILIO VATICANO II (AG7/LG14)
(VATICAN COUNCIL II (Ad Gentes 7/ Lumen Gentes 14)
CATECHISMO DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA (846)
(CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 846)
CATECHISMO DEL TRENTO, CATECHISMO DEL PAPA PIO X,
(CATECHISM OF TRENT, CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X)
CONCILIO LATERANO (1215), CONCILIO DI FIRENZE (1442)
(FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL (1215), COUNCIL OF FLORENCE (1442))
Name: Lionel Andrades https://twitter.com/AndradesLionel E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com
Blog: eucharistandmission ( Lionel’s blog).
IL BATTESIMO DI DESIDERIO (BOD), IL BATTESIMO DI
SANGUE (BOB) E L'ESSERE SALVATI NELL'INVINCIBILE IGNORANZA (I.I) SONO SEMPRE
CASI IPOTETICI E FISICAMENTE INVISIBILI. QUINDI NON CONTRADIDONO IL DOGMA EXTRA
ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS (EENS).IL BOD, BOB E I.I NON SONO PERSONE CONOSCIUTE NEI
CASI PERSONALI. NON CI SONO CASI FISICAMENTE VISIBILI DI ESSERE SALVATI
NELL'INVINCIBILE IGNORANZA. QUINDI NON SONO ECCEZIONI OGGETTIVE PER IL DOGMA
EENS NEL 1965-2023.AD GENTES 7 E LUMEN GENTIUM 14 SOSTENGONO IL DOGMA EENS .LG
8,14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ETC NON SONO ECCEZIONI PRATICHE PER AG 7/ LG 14 E
IL DOGMA EENS. IL CONCILIO HA L'ERMENEUTICA DELLA CONTINUITÀ CON IL PROGRAMMA
DEGLI ERRORI, IL CREDO DI ATANASIO E IL CATECHISMO DI PAPA PIO X (24Q,27Q).
THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE (BOD), BAPTISM OF BLOOD(BOB) AND BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE (I.I) ARE ALWAYS HYPOTHETICAL AND PHYSICALLY INVISIBLE CASES. SO THEY DO NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS (EENS).THE BOD, BOB AND I.I ARE NOT KNOWN PEOPLE IN PERSONAL CASES. THERE ARE NO PHYSICALLY VISIBLE CASES OF BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE.SO THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EENS IN 1965-2023.AD GENTES 7 AND LUMEN GENTIUM 14 SUPPORT THE DOGMA EENS .LG 8,14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 ETC ARE NOT PRACTICAL EXCEPTIONS FOR AG 7/ LG 14 AND THE DOGMA EENS. THE COUNCIL HAS THE HERMENEUTIC OF CONTINUITY WITH THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X ( 24Q,27Q).
SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
2. INVISIBLE CASES
THESE ARE REFERENCES TO INVISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS OF POPE PIUS IX.
This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.
Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…
… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II
The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.
All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II
2.CASI INVISIBILE
(LG8,LG14,GS 22, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2 etc)
QUESTI SONO RIFERIMENTI A CASI INVISIBILI NEL 2023. NON SONO ESEMPI VISIBILI DI SALVEZZA FUORI DALLA CHIESA. NON SONO ECCEZIONI OGGETTIVE PER IL DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, IL CREDO DI ATANASIO E IL SILLABO DEGLI ERRORI DI PAPA PIO IX.
Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II.
Questa Chiesa, in questo mondo costituita e organizzata come società, sussiste nella Chiesa cattolica, governata dal successore di Pietro e dai vescovi in comunione con lui [13], ancorché al di fuori del suo organismo si trovino parecchi elementi di santificazione e di verità, che, appartenendo propriamente per dono di Dio alla Chiesa di Cristo, spingono verso l'unità cattolica. - Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II.
Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.
I catecumeni che per impulso dello Spirito Santo desiderano ed espressamente vogliono essere incorporati alla Chiesa, vengono ad essa congiunti da questo stesso desiderio, e la madre Chiesa li avvolge come già suoi con il proprio amore e con le proprie cure.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.
Gaudium et Specs 22
E ciò vale non solamente per i cristiani, ma anche per tutti gli uomini di buona volontà, nel cui cuore lavora invisibilmente la grazia (39). Cristo, infatti, è morto per tutti (40) e la vocazione ultima dell'uomo è effettivamente una sola, quella divina; perciò dobbiamo ritenere che lo Spirito Santo dia a tutti la possibilità di venire associati, nel modo che Dio conosce, al mistero pasquale.-Gaudium et Specs 22
3. EXCLUSIVE SALVATION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY
14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its
attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture
and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile,
is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the
Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms
He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism124 and thereby affirmed
also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men
enter the Church…- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made
known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by
baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by
stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark
16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into
which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7
CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 845-846
845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin,
the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church.
The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation.
The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in
the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates
safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church
Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.- Catechism of
the Catholic Church
846 …Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the
Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for
salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is
present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted
the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the
necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door…
Fourth
Lateran Council (1215): "There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside
which no one at all is saved."
ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA
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