We know we can interpret Vatican Council II rationally
and ethically. This must be the norm. To choose to interpret Vatican Council,
the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms, irrationally and dishonestly for worldly
gain, is still schism. It is schism even if the pope chooses it for political
left reasons.
Many conservatives and traditionalists have been
informed yet they also choose schism since it is in their interest financially,
career-wise or for other reasons. They need Vatican Council II as a rupture and
not continuation with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). They do not
want to be accused of being Anti Semitic or labeled under some other coercive
law of the Left.
So among many Catholics, who are informed, and who still interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally are : Peter Kwasniewski, Ann Barnhardt, Louie Verrecchio, Roberto dei Mattei, Christopher Ferrara, Michael Matt, Taylor Marshall, Michael Voris, Ruth Graham and Ross Douthat at the New York Times, Massimo Faggioli and Alberto Melloni of the Bologna School (FSCIRE),Edward Pentin and Diane Montagna who maintain their Press credential by choosing the Fake Premise, Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi at the Detroit seminary and Raymond Arroyo and his papal posse and the apologists at EWTN. There is John Henry Weston and Maike Hickson.Then there are the Paulist Fathers in Rome.
Brother Thomas Augustine micm, Superior of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center, Still River, MA, USA still interprets Vatican Council II irrationally contradicting Feeneyite EENS.
It is the same with Brothers Peter and Michael Dimond at the Most Holy Family Monastery, in New York, USA and the host of Pints With Aquinas.
Mel Gibson and the association for cancelled priests
also interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and so schismatically. -Lionel Andrades
INVISIBLE CASES FOR ME BUT VISIBLE CASES FOR MEL GIBSON AND THE ASSOCIATION OF CANCELLED PRIESTS.
THESE ARE REFERENCES TO INVISIBE CASES IN 2023 FOR ME. THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH. THEY ARE NOT OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE SYLLABUS OF ERRORS OF POPE PIUS IX.BUT FOR MEL GIBSON AND THE ASSOCIATION OF CANCELLED PRIESTS THESE ARE PHYSICALLY VISIBLE CASES. IF THEY WERE NOT VISIBLE THEN THEY COULD NOT BE OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR FEENEYITE EEENS.
This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.
Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…
… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II
The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.
All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II
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EXCLUSIVE SALVATION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY
14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism124 and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church…- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7
CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 845-846
845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.- Catechism of the Catholic Church
846 …Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door…
Fourth Lateran Council (1215): "There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved."
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APRIL 19, 2023
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