When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally and ethically it is Magisterial. It is not political. So when Cardinal Vincent Nichols, the Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster, England, and the English bishops, rectors and seminarians interpret Vatican Council II politically and unethically, they are in schism.

 

When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally and ethically it is Magisterial. It is not political. So when Cardinal Vincent Nichols, the Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster, England, and the English bishops, rectors and seminarians interpret Vatican Council II politically and unethically, they are in schism.

They are choosing heresy to please the Jewish Left. They want a rupture with Tradition when there is no rupture.

So they intentionally choose schism and are supported by Pope Francis.

It is the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, which is in official schism when they do not interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ethically, like those of us who do so.

Cardinal Nichols chooses to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and schismatically and this way the liberalism remains in the Church.

Cardinal Nichols will not tell Catholics in Britain to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, ethically and non schismatically, for then the Church will be affirming exclusive salvation, the Church will return to orthodoxy.

With the rational premise and inference in the interpretation of Vatican Council II:

1)         There will be no exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus in the text of Vatican Council II.

2)       Lumen Gentium 14 and Ad Gentes 7 would support the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on EENS with no known exceptions.

So if the pope tomorrow interprets Vatican Council II rationally, ethically and non schismatically, Cardinal Nichols and the British bishops and cardinals will choose the prevailing schism.They could break away from the Church.

When Pope Benedict and Fr. Federico Lombardi sj, initially supported Bishop Richard Williamson , the English ecclesiastics and laity supported the Jewish Left and not the Catholic bishop from England. This was their priority in public. Now if the CDF asks them to interpret Vatican Council II rationally, they will  reject the CDF and support the Left.

Since we know that we can interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ethically Cardinal Nichols is already in schism. He is dishonest for political reasons.  - Lionel Andrades

THESE ARE INVISIBLE CASES FOR ME BUT PHYSICALLY VISIBLE CASES FOR THE BRITISH CARDINALS AND BISHOPS.THEY HAVE TO BE VISIBLE FOR THEM.IT IS ONLY IN THIS IRRATIONAL WAY THAT THEY CAN BE EXCEPTIONS FOR EENS AND THE PAST ECCLESIOCENTRIS ECCLESIOLOGY.

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

 

VISIBLE CASES FOR POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS

THESE ARE VISIBLE CASES FOR POPE FRANCIS, THE CARDINALS AND BISHOPS.THIS IS AN ERROR.THE ERROR IS NOT MAGISTERIAL.

THESE ARE REFERENCES TO VISIBE CASES IN 2023. THEY ARE VISIBLE EXAMPLES OF SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH FOR THE POPES FROM PAUL VI TO FRANCIS. THEY ARE OBJECTIVE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS, THE ATHANASIUS CREED..THIS IS AN OFFICIAL AND PUBLIC ERROR OF THE CDF.

POPE FRANCIS IS NOT MAGISTERIAL ON

 

VATICAN COUNCIL II AT PRESENT.

 

 

This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him,(13*) although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity.- Lumen Gentium 8, Vatican Council II

 Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own. - Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

 But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator… Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.- Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

 Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith…

… These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. – Unitatis Redintigratio 3 Vatican Council II

The Catholic Church rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men. – Nostra Aetate 2, Vatican Council II.

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery.- Gaudium et Specs 22, Vatican Council II

 THERE IS EXCLUSIVE SALVATION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TODAY FOR ME BUT NOT FOR THE BRITISH CARDINALS AND BISHOPS.VATICAN COUNCIL II HAS EXCEPTIONS FOR EENS FOR THEM BUT NOT FOR ME.IF THERE WERE NO EXCEPTIONS POPE FRANCIS AND THE LEFT WOULD ACCUSE THEM OF BEING 'TRIUMPHALISTIC'.

14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism124 and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church…- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II

Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 845-846

845 To reunite all his children, scattered and led astray by sin, the Father willed to call the whole of humanity together into his Son's Church. The Church is the place where humanity must rediscover its unity and salvation. The Church is "the world reconciled." She is that bark which "in the full sail of the Lord's cross, by the breath of the Holy Spirit, navigates safely in this world." According to another image dear to the Church Fathers, she is prefigured by Noah's ark, which alone saves from the flood.- Catechism of the Catholic Church

 846 …Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door…

 Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.-Athanasius Creed

 Fourth Lateran Council (1215): "There is but one  universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved."

So the British cardinals and bishops wrongly confuse invisible cases as being objective examples of salvation outside the Church and visible exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the rest of Tradition. So EENS is made obsolete with this ruse.There is no controversy with the Chief Rabbinate of Israel and the Zionists. They  maintain 'good relations with the Jewish Left'.

- Lionel Andrades