Today at the SSPX Mass on Pentecost Sunday, in Rome, the priest in his homily mentioned that when the pope speaks ex cathedra it is a dogma. This is an infallible teaching of Vatican Council I (one).However he did not mention that extra ecclesiam nulla salus (outside the Church there is no salvation) is also a dogma of the Church. The SSPX does not affirm the dogma EENS in public.

 

Today at the SSPX Mass on Pentecost Sunday, in Rome, the priest in his homily mentioned that when the pope speaks ex cathedra it is a dogma. This is an infallible teaching of Vatican Council I (one).However he did not mention that extra ecclesiam nulla salus (outside the Church there is no salvation) is also a dogma of the Church. The SSPX does not affirm the dogma EENS in public. At the chapel there were Italian police, non Christians, on duty today morning at the 11 o’clock Mass.

EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS IS ALSO A DOGMA OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

I was kneeling in front of him, in the center aisle  of the small chapel, with a colorful badge which says in Italian, that outside the Church there is no salvation is a dogma of the Catholic Church.

Like the priests at the Novus Ordo Mass, the SSPX priest did not mention the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442) which defined EENS with no exceptions.He could easily have affirmed the dogma EENS but he did not want to be politically incorrect. He did not want to be Anti Semitic, fascist etc. These are the   leftist labels used to control and intimidate the Church.

Present at the Mass this morning, was the respected conservative politician Roberto Fiore, a political associate of    Alessandra Mussolini. She served as a member of Parliament with Berlusconi’s political party and was a member of the European Parliament.She is the grand daughter of the great Benito Mussolini..Fiore, who was there with his family, has not clarified his position on this issue. The website of his political party Forza Nuova does not mention that they affirm the dogma EENS in harmony with Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally.

SSPX IN A RUPTURE WITH TRADITION

The SSPX at Econe interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and produces a rupture with the Council of Florence etc. They also interpret the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance irrationally, and produce a rupture with the Fourth Lateran Council on EENS.

The New Concordat in Italy is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally. Vatican Council II, rational, would be in harmony with the 1929 Concordat and the traditional ecclesiology of the Catholic Church.

The SSPX priests in Rome cannot speak to me about the Catholic Faith. Since for political reasons they cannot proclaim the dogma EENS according to the old Councils, which defined EENS ex cathedra.

Possibly if Bishop Bernard Fellay and Fr. Davide Pagliarani were in Rome they too would want to avoid me, like Fr. Federico Montani.

The popes from Pius XII have used the false invisible people are visible people to interpret the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance ( 1949 Letter of the Holy Office).All the popes from Paul VI have repeated the error. Even popes John Paul II, Benedict XVI and Francis have interpreted Vatican Council II with the error instead of without it.

FRANCISCANS OF THE IMMACULATE NEW ADMINISTRATION

The new Administration of the Franciscans of the Immaculate are also interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally, producing a false break with Fourth Lateran Council, which the SSPX at Albano, Italy do not want to affirm in public. This deception is approved by Pope Francis and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican. They are imposing this error upon the whole community including those who offer only the Latin Mass. They are also not affirming the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II, rational, which does not contradict the Council of Florence (1442) on EENS with no known exceptions. In public their position is the same as the SSPX.

Young people do not have the Catholic Faith proclaimed to them since the liberals and conservatives are not proclaiming EENS for political and selfish reasons.

Even at the Latin Mass of the FSSP at the church Santissima Trinita dei Pelligrini, Rome, Roberto dei Mattei, Hilary White and others, are interpreting the Creeds,  Councils, Catechisms, EENS, Vatican Council II etc, irrationally and non traditionally, since they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.

They are expected to hold to the original understanding of the Nicene and Athanasius Creed, for example. How can they do this when they interpret the baptism of desire (LG 14) and being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) irrationally- and so produce heresy and schism, which is common at the Novus Ordo and Latin Mass.

UNA VOCE, COETUS INT'L, FSSP, SSPX ARE IN DOCTRINAL CHAOS

Una Voce Int’l. Coetus Int’l.,Latin Mass Societies of England, FSSP and SSPX are all interpreting Magisterial Documents ( Creeds, Councils etc) irrationally. This is doctrinal chaos and they claim this is Tradition and the media call them traditionalists.

Roberto dei Mattei in Italy and Peter Kwasniewski in the USA are not going to affirm Magisterial Documents rationally and then be accused of being Anti Semitic etc. This is why all these years they have kept silent on this issue.

POPE FRANCIS AND CARD. ROCHE MUST ONLY AFFIRM THE OLD MISSAL WITH VATICAN COUNCIL (RATIONAL)

Cardinal Arthur Roche has cited Vatican Council II (irrational) to prohibit the Latin Mass. This is not Catholic and no one mentions it.

If Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II rationally then he can only affirm the old Roman Missal. Since the new missal is based upon the irrational version of the Council which creates a break with EENS. No one is telling him that Council supports the old Roman Missal, the Council supports the Syllabus of Errors, and the Council supports only Tradition. The Council is only traditional. So Pope Francis and Cardinal Roche are not Magisterial when they interpret the Council only irrationally.

NO STATEMENT FROM ECONE, SSPX ALBANO, ECCLESIA DEI COMMUNITIES  ETC ON VATICAN COUNCIL (RATIONAL).

There is no statement from Econe, the SSPX District Albano, the Institute of the Good Shepherd and other Ecclesia Dei communities saying that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, always refer to hypothetical and invisible cases only in 2023.So they do not contradict the dogma EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council and the Council which defined EENS in the Extraordinary Magisterium. So Vatican Council II has continuity with Tradition. It is not a rupture with the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors since LG 8, 14, 16 etc, are always invisible cases in 1949-2023.

I interpret Church Documents rationally. Please do not expect me to say that invisible people are visible for me, in the present times.For me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to only hypothetical and invisible cases. While Ad Gentes 7 says all need faith and baptism for salvation, affirming EENS. Lumen Gentium 14 is cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (846) under the title Outside the Church No Salvation.So for me Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church affirm the dogma EENS of the Fourth Lateran Council. The ecclesiology of the Church today is still exclusivist. There is no development of doctrine, no new ecumenism, new theology and new ecclesiology for me. Since the Council can only be interpreted rationally. -Lionel Andrades