There are two important discoveries the cardinals must note before the Synod in October and the ordination of 21 cardinals in September

 

There are two important discoveries the cardinals must note before the Synod in October and the ordination of 21 new cardinals in September.

1. If LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are seen as hypothetical cases always then they are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Athanasius Creed, the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X and the rest of Tradition. Invisible cases of LG 8,14,15,16 etc cannot be visible exceptions for  EENS according to the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire or Brother Peter Dimond of the Most Holy Family Monastery in New York.

2. If LG 8,14, 15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 222 etc refer to hypothetical and invisible cases then the Nicene Creed does not change when it states , ‘I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins’. It is a reference to the baptism of water.

But if LG 8,14, 15,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to physically visible and objective examples of salvation outside the Church in 1965-2023, then Vatican Council II (irrational, with objective cases of LG 8,14,15,16 etc) is a rupture with the Nicene Creed. Since the Creed will now mean, “ I believe in three or more baptisms ( desire, blood, invincible ignorance etc) which are physically visible and exclude the baptism of desire and so contradict Feeneyite EENS', or, EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442)’.

INTERPRETATION OF CATECHISMS CHANGE

In the same way the interpretation of Vatican Council II, irrational, changes the understanding of the Apostles Creed, the Athanasius Creed, the dogma EENS, the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 27Q and 29 Q) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church ( 845,846,1257, 847,848 etc). The Catechisms can be interpreted with Feeneyism (invisible people are invisible) or Cushingism (invisible people are visible).

So this is a discovery before the Synod in October where all the participants will interpret Vatican Council II and the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms irrationally and so dishonestly. It will be the same with the ordination of the 21 new cardinals in September.   -Lionel Andrades

 JULY 29, 2023

Cardinals and bishops and especially the Ecclesia Dei communities must object to the ordination of cardinals in September.These bishops interpret Vatican Council II irrationally to avoid being labeled traditionalists.

 

Cardinals and bishops and especially the Ecclesia Dei communities must object to the  ordination of cardinals in September.These bishops interpret Vatican Council II irrationally to avoid being labeled traditionalists. If they interpreted the Council rationally they would become Feeneyite on extra ecclesiam nulla salus and conservative and orthodox in general.

It is unethical for Pope Francis to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and then ordain cardinals who are also dishonest on the Council.

Among the new appointees are 18 cardinal-elects who do not qualify. Since they interpret the Council unethically. This is not Catholic.

The ordinations can go ahead only after these 21  bishops interpret Vatican Councl II, the Creeds, Councils, Catechisms and the dogma EENS rationally.

Those who need more information on this issue can e-mail me at : lionelandrades10@gmail.com

-Lionel Andrades

Pope to appoint 21 new cardinals at consistory on Sept 30

https://www.ansa.it/english/news/2023/07/09/pope-to-appoint-21-new-cardinals-at-consistory-on-sept-30_53678798-4102-4e94-bcf9-069fabdf49e1.html

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https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/catholics-must-appeal-to-synod-voters.html

JULY 28, 2023

Things have changed in the Church. You can know more tell me that you justify your liberalism with Vatican Council, since I can justify my orthodoxy, also with Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/things-have-changed-in-church-you-can.html

TALKS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II BEING IN HARMONY WITH TRADITION AND THERE BEING TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE COUNCIL, ONE IS RATIONAL AND THE OTHER IS IRRATIONAL.

If you are a group of Catholics, liberal or traditionalist, I am willing to speak about this subject. I can present the material on this blog in an orderly way for you to understand quickly what I keep writing about. I available am in Rome ( only Rome) and there is no charge. The information will be given free. It will be illustrated with some graphics and photos.

I am a Catholic and I affirm the teachings of the Catholic Church as I have said often on this blog.

The difference between me and Catholics in general and also the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican,  is that they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Catechisms, Councils etc  irrationally and I am rational.

I choose a rational premise and inference and so my conclusion is traditional.

The presentation could take 20 minutes or less.I will be available to answer questions.I do not have any new theology to offer. I simply avoid an irrational observation and we return to the old theology of the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century at the Latin Mass. This would be the general theology today, which is honest and rational, at every Mass and every Rite. It would have to be the lex orandi.

Please e-mail me at : lionelandrades10@gmail.com

p.s I do not have a telephone contact number and do not travel out of Rome.

ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH      SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.

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