All the reports/articles on Vatican Council II on the website of the Vatican are now obsolete. They are written with Cushingism and not Feeneyism.It is the same for the SSPX websites and those of the sedevacantists (CMRI, MHT, and MHFM) websites.

 

All the reports/articles on Vatican Council II on the website of the Vatican are now obsolete. They are written with Cushingism and not Feeneyism.It is the same for the SSPX websites and those of the sedevacantists (CMRI, MHT, and MHFM) websites.

At the University of St. Anselm Rome, Department of Liturgy, they are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. All this has been approved by Cardinal Arthur Roche who calls it the ‘new magisterium’ of the Church. This same modernism is there at Mass organized by the Latin Mass Societies of England and Wales and Una Voce. The liberals and traditionalist have been choosing Cushingism as a theology. This is the theology of the National Catholic Reporter and Fr. John Zuhlsdorf.

If LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are seen as only hypothetical cases then the interpretation is rational. If they are seen as objective cases in 2023, known non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water, then this interpretation is irrational.

Either way, rational or irrational, it has a bearing on how we interpret the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils. Ecclesiology is traditional or non traditional.

The websites of the Vatican and the SSPX interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So they imply that LG 8 etc refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2023. Invisible people cannot be exceptions for the dogma EENS and the Athanasius Creed.

For example, if there is an apple in a box of oranges then the apple is an exception because it is different, but also because it is there in that box. If it was not there in that box it would not be an exception.

If anyone is saved according to LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc, it can only be known to God. We cannot say that there is, for example, a St.Emerentiana in Heaven saved without the baptism of water. We cannot know on earth. No one has seen her in Heaven without the baptism of water.

We cannot say that the Good Thief (Dismas) is in Heaven without the baptism of water. We cannot know if he was baptized. Even if he was in Heaven without the baptism of water, we do not know of any Dismas in 1965-2023 who could be an exception for the dogma EENS.

We know that for salvation, all need faith and the baptism of water, this is the norm, and we cannot project any particular person as being an exception.    - Lionel Andrades