Comments from The Vortex — Heretic or Loyal Son - 5

Comments from The Vortex — Heretic or Loyal Son - 5

JL D3 days ago

Michael, do you accept article 1258 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church? Feeneyites reject it as heretical.

1258 The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ. This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament.

Lionel: He does not have to reject it.CCC 1258 refers to hypothetical cases known only to God.They are not exceptions to EENS. The baptism of blood, like the desire for baptism brings about the fruits of baptism without being a Sacrament. If someone is saved as such wonderful. However we do not know of any case in 2019. So CCC 1258, like CCC 847-848 is compatible with the strict interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.

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