The Franciscans of the Immaculate case is no more an issue, the groups simply have to meet and agree on a new version of Vatican Council II; a rational interpretation of the Council. The Council supports the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, associated with the Traditional Latin Mass, the Byzantine Greek Mass and the Church Fathers.

The Franciscans of the Immaculate case is no more an issue, the groups simply have to meet and agree on a new version of Vatican Council II; a rational interpretation of the Council. The Council supports the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, associated with the Traditional Latin Mass, the Byzantine Greek Mass and the Church Fathers.

Vatican Council II is no  more a rupture with the popes of the Middle Ages on salvation theology and doctrines.

Being 'crypto Lefebvre' is a non issue.Since the Lefebvrists themselves, have to ratify a new and rational interpretatiion of the Council.It is no more a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus of Errors, etc).-Lionel Andrades