Think of the hundreds of thousands of books on Vatican Council II all produced with a small defect. A small premise was used to end Tradition and the popes approved it. -Lionel Andrades
JULY 17, 2019
Mattei and Ferrara read Vatican Council II superficially and wrote books misleading Catholics ( Graphics)
-Lionel Andrades
JULY 17, 2019
Priest says Europe was Christian(Catholic) in the past and laments : but he chooses not to interpret the Faith like Catholic Europe
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/priest-says-europe-was.html
JULY 17, 2019
Why do you not interpret the Council II in this way ?
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/why-do-you-not-interpret-council-ii-in.html
JULY 17, 2019
Priest in Canada writes politically- correct- with- the- Left article on Dominus Iesushttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/priest-in-canada-writes-politically.html
JULY 16, 2019
Catechesis for Catholic Proclamation and EvangelisationJULY 16, 2019
The popes before Pius XII knew that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) always referred to hypothetical cases.But the popes from John XXIII to Francis,if they knew about it did not mention this in public.They let Catholics believe that BOD, BOB and I.I were visible and known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).From Pope Paul VI this was the new interpretation of the Council
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-popes-before-pius-xii-knew-that.html
JULY 15, 2019
Participants at summer conference in Italy contradict the popes over the centuries and yet call themselves traditionalists
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/participants-at-summer-conference-in.html
JULY 15, 2019
Priest says Europe was Christian(Catholic) in the past and laments : but he chooses not to interpret the Faith like Catholic Europe
From the pope to the parish priest the Faith of the Catholic Church is not being proclaimed.No one in church during Holy Mass says all non Catholics are oriented to Hell according to Vatican Council II and they need to convert into the Catholic Church to go to Heaven.
This was the Faith of the Catholic Church for centuries in Europe and it is supported by Vatican Council II, when the Council is interpreted rationally and not like the liberals, Vatican and Lefebvrists.
HOLY MASS IN ITALIAN YESTERDAY
HOLY MASS IN ITALIAN YESTERDAY
Yesterday evening at Holy Mass in Italian the priest was speaking about how Europe was Christian. However he would not affirm the Catholic Faith as it was proclaimed in Europe in the Middle Ages.
This priest has to actually deny the Catholic Faith, commit a mortal sin of faith to avoid being penalised by the secular-Satanic forces and to not be be expelled by the Rome Vicariate under instructions from the Jewish Left who have the political power here.
So the priest avoids being returned to the lay status, does not procliam the Catholic faith and allows heresy to be taught with his permission.
This is the scene in Europe from the parish priest to the popes.
Similarly lay people to protect their lifestyle , or due to ignorance,are not proclaiming the Faith.
Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation(AG 7) and we know that most people on earth die without it.They are in Hell today.
The norm for salvation is faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.The norm is not last minute repentance or invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire.
This means according to Vatican Council II,interpreted rationally, all atheists, Christian non Catholics, Hindus, Jews and Muslims are oriented to Hell. Those who have died are already there.This is aside from Catholic who die in mortal sin.
This was also the teaching in Europe over the centuries but it is not being proclaimed in the Catholic Church today.
Catholic summer conferences, held by liberals and traditionalists, are not talking about it.
The Council is Feeneyite and no one wants to proclaim it.
The Council does not contradict Feeneyite EENS and the bloggers do not want to say it.
There is an interview of Roberto dei Mattei by John Henry Weston.Watching it would be a waste of time for me.Since neither of the two will proclaim the Faith.
Roberto dei Mattei does not affirm Feeneyite EENS or Vatican Council II, Feeneytie, since he is a rich man.
Like, Christopher Ferrara he read Vatican Council II superficially and then wrote books misleading Catholics.
Like, Christopher Ferrara he read Vatican Council II superficially and then wrote books misleading Catholics.
Fr. John Zuhlsdorf often has to inform Michael Sean Winters that he rejects Feeneyite EENS.The baptism of desire etc are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus for him.Similarly he will interpret Vatican Council II according to the Bologna School. He will not say that LG 8, UR 3, GS 22, LG 16 etc refer to only theoretical cases in 2019.So they are not examples of known people saved outside the Church. So Vatican Council II does not contradict Feeneyite EENS.The Faith is not important. His personal interests has the priority.
On Fr.Zuhlsdorf' blog there is report on the St.Paul Center Conference for priests.There is a photo of Ralph Martin speaking on the New Evangelisation.Martin knows that possibilities of being saved in invincible ignorane, the baptism of desire and the baptism of blood are not real people in the present times(2018-2019). He knows that they cannot be examples of salvation outside the Church.But he will not admit it. Since he does not want to affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
So Ralph Martin and his Renewal Ministries members believe that unknown cases of BOD,BOB and I.I are known exceptions to the dogma EENS and this is Magisterial, in other words inspired by the Holy Sprit for him.
So since there is personally know salvation outside the Church for him, he supports a New Evangelisation, New Theology, New Ecclesiology.
This is the Ecclesiology that Scott Hahn teaches. Try and imagine Scott Hahn and all those priests saying that LG 8 etc refers to only hypothetical cases and so Vatican Council II does contradict EENS as it was known to the Magisterium in the 16th century.Can you see Ralph Martin and Scott Hahn speaking the truth about the Faith knowing that it will be the end of their careers as apologists?-Lionel Andrades
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2019/07/day-1-st-paul-center-priesthood-conference/
https://stpaulcenter.com/2019-east-coast-priest-conference/
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Why do you not interpret the Council II in this way ?
Comments from The Eponymous Flower
I don't think the Popes were irrational. Rather were intentional. The entire point of Vatican II was to Protestantize the Catholic Church. This has now largely been accomplished. Most Catholics are Protestant in their moral thinking and actions.
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JULY 17, 2019
Priest in Canada writes politically- correct- with- the- Left article on Dominus Iesus
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/priest-in-canada-writes-politically.html
"Anglo-Catholic Priest Excommunocated for Criticizing Post-Conciliar Popes"
Michael Dowd said...Re: "The popes from Paul VI to Benedict XVI interpreted the red passages in Vatican Council II as being exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).This was irrational."
I don't think the Popes were irrational. Rather were intentional. The entire point of Vatican II was to Protestantize the Catholic Church. This has now largely been accomplished. Most Catholics are Protestant in their moral thinking and actions.
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Lionel: Yes but now we can interpret the red passages as not being exceptions to the blue passages and the conclusion is traditional and orthodox. Why do you not interpret the Council II in this way ?
-Lionel AndradesJULY 17, 2019
Priest in Canada writes politically- correct- with- the- Left article on Dominus Iesus
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/priest-in-canada-writes-politically.html
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