Saturday, April 10, 2021

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church support Tradition and the traditionalists.But the bishops use a false premise to interpret these documents.

  A reasonable question needs to be asked: Why would Father de Laire not simply answer my questions as he agreed to do and thus patiently continue the dialogue we agreed on, rather than appeal to the court of public opinion by utilizing the services of a biased journalist? - Brother André Marie, M.I.C.M.

https://catholicism.org/response-to-press-inquiries-regarding-damien-fishers-misleading-article-in-the-new-hampshire-union-leader.html

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church support Tradition and the traditionalists.But the bishops use a false premise to interpret these documents.
Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop of Manchester, USA where the St.Benedict Center, New Hampshire is located, Fr. Georges de Laire, Vicar General and Merdith Cook, Chancellor along with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, have issued a Decree of Precepts and Prohibitions against Brother Andre Marie and the SBC.But Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church support Tradition(EENS etc) and the traditionalists, when the false premise is not used in the interpretation.
Similarly Vatican Council II supports Tradition and Fr. Vaughn Treco and not Bishop Stephen J.Lopes of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter Without the false premise Bishop Lopes cannot prop his liberal theology. 
Similarly the Council interpreted without the false premise supports Tradition and the dismissed and transferred traditionalist priests in the diocese of Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy. Archbishop Gian Carlo Perego, interprets Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with the false premise, supports his liberalism and then faults Tradition and the traditionalists. In the same way Archbishops Morandi and Di Noia interpret CCC 847-848 as referring to physically visible and personally known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church in invincible ignorance and then expects Brother Andre Marie to project practical exceptions (CCC 847-848) to the traditional interpretation of EENS.Without the false premise, CCC 847-848 can only be hypothetical . This is common sense. So it cannot be an exception to EENS and the rest of Tradition.-Lionel Andrades

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APRIL 8, 2021

The Lefebvrists, Thucs and Feeneyites are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise like Bishop Steven J. Lopes is the first bishop of the Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter and pastor to all its members and clergy in the United States and Canada. So nothing can be done by them regarding the case of Fr. Vaughn Treco

The Lefebvrists, Thucs and Feeneyites are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise like Bishop Steven J. Lopes the first bishop of the Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter and pastor to all its members and clergy in the United States and Canada. 

So nothing can be done by them regarding the case of Fr. Vaughn Treco. -Lionel Andrades

https://ordinariate.net/bishop-lopes



The next time a traditionalist priest is transferred or dismissed the bloggers should not just report it critically. They must not just accept the unjust decision assuming the  traditionalist-liberal division is normal. They must not assume that the ' development of doctrine' is normal and so they cannot do anything about it. Since if a traditionalist priest is excommunicated it is the bishop who interprets Vatican Council II irrationally. His liberalism is not normal. The Council interpreted rationally supports the traditional priest.The issue is doctrinal and theological. It is the bishop who interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and creates division in the Catholic Church.-L.A________________

 JULY 15, 2019

Bishop Steven Lopes does not interpret Vatican Council II without the irrationality and has excommunicated Fr. Vaughn Treco.

It is a mortal sin of faith for Bishop Steven J.Lopes and the ecclesiastics at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) to reject the Athanasius which says outside the Church there is no salvation.They are automatically excommunicated.
To interpret invincible ignorance as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church and then postulate this as an exception to the Athanasius Creed, is a mortal sin of faith. It is public heresy.
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Fr. Vaughn Treco was not obliged to interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to known examples of salvation outside the Church.This was the public heresy of Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, Prefect of the CDF at the Plaquet Deo Press Conference on March 1,2018.He made a direct attack on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).He pretended that Lumen Gentium 8 referred to known people saved outside the Church. 
Fr.Vaught Treco like Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was correct. Vatican Council II interpreted with hypothetical cases assumed to be objective and practical examples of salvation outside the Church and so exceptions to EENS, is irrational, deceptive and heretical.
Bishop Steven Lopes is not accepting Vatican Council II with LG 8, LG 14,LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc being only theoretical cases in 2019 and so they are not exceptions of the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. He is not being excommunicatd by complicit and ideological CDF and instead is supported.
He was allowed to study theology at the Gregorian Pontifical University since he did not say that the Holy Office (CDF) made an objective error in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case and the same mistake as repeated at Vatican Council II.
If he expressed the truth the Vatican and the Left would not  allow him to receive a doctorate in theology.
May be Fr. Vaugh Treco did not know how Vatican Council II can be interpeted without the error of the liberal theologians Rahner and Ratzinger.
May be Bishop Steven Lopes knows that he can interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and inference but if does do so he would be removed like Fr. Carlos Eugenio Irarrázaval Errazuriz  auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Santiago, who made statements opposed by the Jewish Left.
So the  bishop does not interpret Vatican Council II without the irrationality and  has excommunicated Fr. Vaughn Treco.-Lionel Andrades

He has been ‘excommunicated’ for the ‘crime’ of Catholicism! ~ An Old Curmudgeon

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2019

Fr. Vaughn Treco's excommunication needs to be revoked(The bishop interprets Vatican Council II and the Creeds and Catechisms with a false premise to reject Tradition. Canonically he is at fault. His liberalism can only be justified with the false premise. Without the false premise Vatican Council II would support Fr. Vaughn Treco.)


There are so many Catholics in Bridgeport, Connecticut, USA and none of them tell their bishop that Lumen Gentium  does not contradict the strict interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).The Council is Feeneyite. It does not contradict Feeneyite EENS.Vatican Council II Feeneyite, does not contradict EENS, Feeneyite.
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Similarly there was so much confusion among the supporters of Fr. Vaughn Treco who was recently excommunicated in another diocese.
It was Fr.Treco's bishop who needed to affirm Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS and the past ecclesiology.Instead he chose to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with the Catechisms and the Creeds and this was not considered heresy by conservative Catholics.
The excommunication of Fr. Treco must be revoked and Vatican Council II must be interpreted in harmony with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc.When Fr. Treco affirms EENS  he supported by Vatican Council II, Feeneyite.
When his bishop interprets Vatican Council II, he is interpreting it with irrational Cushingism and so there is a break with EENS, the past exclusive ecclesiology of the Catholic Church and an ecumenism of return. With EENS and Vatican Council II Feeneyite, there is no theological opening for the new ecumenism and other things new.
Bishop Caggiano and the apologists at Catholic Answers must do the same otherwise they support heresy and schism.
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Similarly the Rector of the Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit and the Archbishop of Detroit, must affirm Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS and without the irrationality of the Letter of the Holy Office 1959. The same needs to be done also by Ralph Martin and Robert Fastiggi, professors of theology at the seminary.



    




The present two popes need to be shown how Lumen Gentium does not contradict EENS according to the Magisterium and missionaries of the 16th century who were not limited by the false reasoning of the Letter of the Holy Office  1949.-Lionel Andrades




APRIL 8, 2021

Without the irrational premise the Council supports Tradition and the suspended priests. The Council without the false premise supports the priests and not the bishops : Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy and Mons. Luigi Negri

 When the traditionalist priests at Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy were transferred it was the  fault of the Archbishop of Ferrara,Giancarlo Peregro and the visiting Auxiliary Bishop of Rome. Since the two bishops were interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. Canonically they were at fault. They were also interpreting the Creeds and Catechisms with the error.

 Without the irrational premise the Council supports Tradition and the suspended priests. The Council without the false premise supports the priests and not the bishops, I repeat.

The present interpretation of Vatican Council II at Ferrara is from the political Left. It is another example of the non separation of Church and the leftist state.

Without the false premise there is no leftist version of the Council. There is no theological liberalism. There is no new theology to create a new ecumenism, new ecclesiology etc.

It was an injustice done to the traditionalist priests since the conservative bishop of Ferrara, Archbishop Emeritus, Luigi Negri, is not aware of the false premise. As a Lefebvrist he is not aware of the fake premise being used in the interpretation of the Council. It is only with the fake premise that there is a liberal-conservative theological division in Ferrara. -Lionel Andrades

APRIL 8, 2021



The Lefebvrists, Thucs and Feeneyites are interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise like Bishop Steven J. Lopes is the first bishop of the Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter and pastor to all its members and clergy in the United States and Canada. So nothing can be done by them regarding the case of Fr. Vaughn Treco

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/04/the-lefebvrists-thucs-and-feneeyites.html


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 SEPTEMBER 12, 2020

The Archbishop and Emeritus Bishop of Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with a false premise.There is no one to explain the Catholic Faith in Ferrara

 Clerical Whispers: Liberal Replaces Bishop of Ferrara Archdiocese  The Eponymous Flower: Archbishop Negri "A Litany of Loreto for Migrants?  Political Correctness."

The Archbishop and Emeritus Bishop of Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy  interpret Vatican Council II and EENS with a false premise.There is no one to explain the Catholic Faith in Ferrara. -Lionel Andrades

SATURDAY, AUGUST 8, 2020

Archbishop Giancarlo Perego in the diocese of Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy is no more a liberal when he affirms EENS and the Syllabus which are supported by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Ask him to affirm Tradition and the Council

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 Archbishop Giancarlo Perego in the diocese of Ferrara-Commacchio, Italy is no more a liberal when he affirms EENS and the Syllabus which are supported by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Ask him to affirm Tradition and the Council.-Lionel Andrades

SATURDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2020

The Cushingite bishops transferred the priests from the diocese of Commachio-Ferrara, Italy and the Cushingite Lefebvrists did nothing. The liberals in communities like the New Catechumenal Way etc also did nothing.This was expected. Since the Lefebvrists and the Neo Cathechumenal Way are Cushingites. If they were Feeneyite they could 1) oppose the bishops in Ferrara citing Feeneyite Magisterial documents 2) issue public statements citing a Feeneyite interpretation of Vatican Council II. The Neo Cathumenal Way members and priests and those of the Society of St. Pius X, independently, for now, could interpret Vatican Council II and Creeds and Catechisms without the false premise, and then together make the appeal when the traditionalists are targeted. The traditionalists are targeted since the Vatican interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise and then opposes Feeneyite EENS, Feeneyite Syllabus of Errors etc

 The Cushingite bishops transferred the priests from the diocese of Commachio-Ferrara, Italy and the Cushingite Lefebvrists did nothing. The liberals in communities like the New Catechumenal Way etc also did nothing.This was expected. Since the Lefebvrists and the Neo Cathechumenal Way are Cushingites.

If they were Feeneyite  they could 1) oppose the bishops in Ferrara citing Feeneyite Magisterial documents 2) issue public statements citing a Feeneyite interpretation of Vatican Council II.

The Neo Cathumenal Way members and priests and those of the Society of St. Pius X, independently, for now, could interpret Vatican Council II and Creeds and Catechisms without the false premise, and then together make the appeal when the traditionalists are targeted.

The traditionalists are targeted since the Vatican interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise and then opposes Feeneyite EENS, Feeneyite Syllabus of Errors etc.-Lionel Andrades



 MARCH 11, 2020

The young people in Ferrara could produce another video showing what is the Catholic faith for them, when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally. They need to show the Lega Mayor Alan Fabri and the Lega Senators that the Archbishop of Ferrara-Commacchio, Mons. Giancarlo Peregro rejects a rational interpretation of Vatican Council II. He then suppresses the young priests in his diocese who reject the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/03/the-young-people-in-ferrara-could.html




TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 2020

When the young traditionalist priests at Ferrara, Italy were transferred, the priests and about three bishops who were involved, were all interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise and did not seem to know it. The Lefebvrists would mention the case of the these priests on their blogs but the bloggers too use the same false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents.So they made the same mistake as the liberal bishops at Ferrara and one traditionalist bishop there. I pointed out this error on my blog but I was ignored. The Lepanto Foundation, Remnant News andthe SSPX groups continue to organise conferences in which the speakes interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise just like the liberals and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican

 When the young traditionalist priests at Ferrara, Italy were transferred, the priests and about three bishops who were involved,  were all interpreting Vatican Council II with a false premise and did not seem to know it.

The Lefebvrists  would mention the case of the these priests on  their blogs but the bloggers too use the same false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial documents.So they made the same mistake as the liberal bishops at Ferrara and one traditionalist bishop there.

I pointed out this error on my blog but I was ignored.

The Lepanto Foundation, Remnant News andthe SSPX groups continue to organise conferences in which the speakes interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise just like the liberals and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican. . -Lionel Andrades




 JULY 1, 2020

Doctrinal confusion still remains at Ferrara


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June 30, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Today, Italian Archbishop Luigi Negri published on his website and on the website of Italian journalist Marco Tosatti a public letter to Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, in which he gives him his full support for his “message which seems to me to have aptly expressed the living heart of our ecclesial experience.” Speaking about “elements of degradation both in the life of the Church as well as in civil society,” this recently retired Archbishop of Ferrara-Comacchio now endorses Archbishop Viganò's work and says he would like to “accompany” his “path of truth.”
Archbishop Negri clarified that his praise referred to Viganò’s early May interventions, not his June interventions on Vatican II.
Mons. Luigi Negri, Emeritus Archbishop of Ferrara [2013-2017] and previously Bishop of the Diocese of San Marino-Montefeltro [2005-2012] does not interpret Vatican Council II without the false premse. It is the same with Archbishop Carlo Vigano and Bishop Athanasius Schneider.
So doctrinal confusion still remains at Ferrara.
The Lega political party is unable to see the truth of the Faith since the conservative bishops do not interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise.
if they interpreted the Council without the false premise they could appeal to Mons. Giancarlo Peregro to do the same.-Lionel Andrades

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