Tuesday, October 19, 2021

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj has said that the SSPX are not separated from the Church : Dialogue continues so that they may be only Christocentric and not ecclesiocentric too



CARDINAL LUIZ LADARIA SJ  HAS SAID THAT THE SSPX ARE NOT SEPARATED FROM THE CHURCH : DIALOGUE CONTINUES SO THAT THEY MAY BE ONLY CHRISTOCENTRIC AND NOT ECCLESIOCENTRIC TOO

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj,the Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican,  has said that the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) are not separated from the Church.Of course, dialogue with them will continue so that they may be only Christocentric and not ecclesiocentric too.

Ladaria did not grant the SSPX canonical recognition in the past, since even though Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops interpreted Vatican Council II with the False Premise,like Pope Paul VI, they could not accept the Council with the non traditional co conclusion.For Lefebvre it would be heresy and schism. He was correct.

But then Lefebvre may not have known, his books indicate, that Vatican Council II could be interpreted with the Rational Premise and there would be no break with Tradition.At least the popes did not tell him about it.

Lefebvre did not use the Rational Premise and so with the Fake Premise in the interpretatioin of Magisterial Documents(Creeds, Catechisms, Syllabus of Errors, EENS etc ) he too was prmoting the common heresy and schism, which was official but could not be Magisterial.Since the Holy Spirit would choose the Rational Premise like the past Magisterium.

It is possible that Pope Francis may also welcome non Catholic, Christian religious communities into the Catholic Church and grant them the same recognition given to the SSPX.They will only have to accept Vatican Council II interpreted with the Fake and not Rational Premise.The break with traditional ecclesiocentrism is important for the pope and the Masons.This is also the condition for the Ecclesia Dei communities.

 So all that is expected of the SSPX now is that they discard any trace of the past exclusivist ecclesiology. The dialogue continues.

Cardinal Ladaria led the Vatican side at the Vatican-SSPX doctrinal during the pontificate of Pope Benedict.Both sides were using the Fake Premise to intepret Vatican Council II etc. Pope Benedict approved it.

However the SSPX General Chapter Statement (2012) called for accepting extra ecclesiam nulla salus with no exceptions. This would only be possible if Vatican Council II and EENS were interpreted with the Rational Premise.This was not welcomed by the Vatican and the Left.

Bishop Bernard Fellay and the SSPX breakaway groups would continue to issue statements interpreting the Council only with the False Premise. They were following Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and were politically correct with the Left. -Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 18, 2021

230 German theologians use the same False Premise as Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Mattei and Ferrara

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OCTOBER 18, 2021

Archbishop Lefebvre interpreted the Athanasius Creed, Nicene Creed and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with the Fake Premise and so did the SSPX bishops and priests. This is heresy. It is also schism with the past Magisterium over the centuries, which did not use the same Premise

 

Archbishop Lefebvre interpreted the Athanasius Creed, Nicene Creed and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with the Fake Premise and so did the SSPX bishops and priests. This is heresy. It is also schism with the past Magisterium over the centuries, which used the Rational Premise to create the old theology.SSPX lay supporters  today are also in heresy and schism unless they avoid the False Premise. Heresy and schism are mortal sin of faith. Peter Kwasniewski, Joseph Shaw, Eric Sammons, Michael Matt, Matt Gaspers, Edward Pentin and John Henry Weston have no denial.Their interpretation of Magisterial Documents is heretical and schismatic. Catholics are following them.

John Henry Weston interviewed Eric Sammons and neither of the two of them affirm the teaching outside the Church there is no salvation. There are exceptions for them.This is heresy and schism. How can there be practical exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2021 for them ? This is Cushingism and not Feeneyism.

Chris Ferrara debated Mark Shea on the subject outside the Church there is no salvation and both used the False Premise. They are Cushingites in a break with the past Magisterium.

Roberto dei Mattei has written that outside the Church there is no salvation but with the False Premise.So he changes the interpretation of EENS but also the Catechisms, Vatican Council II, the Creeds etc- this is heresy and schism.

Maria Guarani’s blog Chiesa e Post Concilio has a home page full of reports and videos on Vatican Council II interpreted with the False Premise.This is all now obsolete.

How can those who support heresy and schism and

division call themselves  Catholics ?Traditionalists 

cannot also be liberals who use a Fake Premise.-Lionel Andrades


Lionel Andrades

Writer on Vatican Council II being dogmatic and not only pastoral.It is in harmony with the extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Athanasius Creed etc.

It is found that there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other irrational. Since one uses a Rational Premise and the other a False Premise.One is Magisterial with the past Magisterium and the other, the common one, has an objective error  and so cannot be Magisterial.It is the same with the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.

Why should Catholics choose the irrational version which is heretical, non traditional, liberal and schismatic, while a rational option is there, which is traditional ?.

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