1. Michael Voris and Michael Lofton are in schism when they do not affirm in public the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442)
on outside the Church there is no salvation. Their priority is not the Magisterium
but political expedience.
2. They are also in schism when they do not accept Vatican
Council II interpreted rationally and honestly.
So they reject the Athanasius Creed and the Magisterium of the Church in
the 12th to 16th century. This is schism. The popes from
Pius XII to Francis have done the same. The heresy and schism was there in the
1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston(LOHO).
If Voris and Lofton interpreted Vatican Council II rationally then they would have to affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They do not want to do this.It is Magisterial but not politically correct. Vatican Council II interpreted rationally would not have any exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q, 27Q).
For the popes there are physically visible cases of being saved in
invincible ignorance (I.I) and the baptism of desire (BOD). So there are objective
examples in 1949 of being saved outside the Church. They could allegedly meet
non Catholics saved outside the Church without faith and baptism (AG 7, LG 14).
I cannot.
For me the BOD and I.I refer to invisible cases in 1949-2023. So they do
not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
(EENS). This was known to the popes and saints over the centuries. There was no break with Tradition even in their times.
Obviously there were no visible and known cases of non Catholics on
earth, saved outside the Church. This is common sense.They would be known to God. They would be in
Heaven. But this was the ruse used by the Masons in the 1949 LOHO.
No Catholic, or non Catholic, with a doctorate in theology or philosophy
is willing to challenge me, on this point.
I am a simple layman with no academic degrees in theology or philosophy
but one thing I know: there are no physically visible cases of the baptism of desire
(LG 14) or being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) on earth in 2023.
I have not written books on this subject and I have no intention of writing books in future. But one thing of which I am sure is that : there are no physically visible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in the present times.
I go for Mass on Sunday mornings to the SSPX chapel in Rome and Mass in Italian at the Novus Ordo churches in Rome. They both are the same for me. Vatican Council II has a continuity with the past ecclesiology for me.
I do not write all this for the sake of criticism.I accept Pope Francis as the pope. He told Fr. James Martin sj that homosexual acts are a sin. While he had elsewhere said...But he is on record, saying, homosexual acts are a sin and he is a son of the Church. He is expected to say this.
In the same way, he can re-interpret Vatican Council II rationally and bring the Catholic Church back, theologically, on an even keel. The ship of the Church changes its direction.It is toward God. It is toward Jesus as he was known over 2000 years.- Lionel Andrades
MARCH 22, 2023
Michael Voris and Michael Lofton are not Magisterial when they do not affirm the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442) on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as do the priests of the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX). So why do they say the SSPX is not Magisterial?
MARCH 21, 2023
MARCH 20, 2023
An Augustinian Recollect priest at the church Sant Ildefonso e Tomasso Villanova, via Sistina, Rome, yesterday agreed with me. He said Vatican Council II has a continuity with the past.
MARCH 19, 2023
This is interpreting Church Documents with the Boston Heresy of Pope Pius XII.
MARCH 19, 2023
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