Pope Francis and Cardinal Braz de Avez want the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II (irrational). They refuse .They are correct. Why should they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally?

 

 JUNE 16, 2023

Pope Francis and Cardinal Braz de Avez want the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II (irrational). They refuse .They are correct. Why should they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally? The issue is no more Vatican Council II for them. They can accept Vatican Council II interpreted rationally which is in harmony with Tradition. So they would be affirming the Council and Tradition and have a right to canonical recognition. They are not rejecting the Council and so are not in schism.

Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and would close down seminaries in the name of Vatican Council II and no cardinal and bishop will object and tell him to interpret the Council rationally and so support the past ‘rigid’ ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church, the exclusivist ecclesiology, traditional mission based upon there being exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.

ONLY ONE CHOICE

He should allow the Franciscans of the Immaculate to re-open their seminary and church since Fr.Stefano Mannelli ffi, the founder of the community, can ethically; only interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so traditionally.

The seminary and church in Boccea, Rome should be handed back to his religious community .This week is 50 years for the old church , whose golden jubilee is being celebrated in the parish, without the church. The church is owned by the Comitato dell Immaculata a lay group.

ALL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES MUST BE ETHICAL ON THE COUNCIL

All the religious communities must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally and inform the pope about it. This includes the Brazilian religious community which manages the parish and the new church where the unused seminary is located.

With Vatican Council II interpreted rationally the liberalism of the new administration of the Franciscans of the Immaculate ends. This is the group associated with Fr. Affonso Bruno ffi.They  offer Mass in the vernacular. Fr. Bruno will have to come back to Tradition when the Council is rational. Also the seminarians of the FFI, in their new location near Termini, Rome, will have to come back to Tradition, to the old ecclesiology of the Roman Missal.There is no other choice. The Council can only be interpreted rationally.

The Brazilian priests in the parish of Santa Maria di Nazareth like the local bishop and his Curia will have to come back to Tradition, when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally. Since the Council will then have a hermeneutic of continuity with the dogma EENS as it was interpreted, for example, in the 16the century.

The old church was broken into, last month.It has been defaced. The front door is still wide open and any one can go up to the rooms in the empty seminary. The church is connected to the seminary through an internal passage.

VATICAN COUNCIL II (RATIONAL) IS AN ISSUE FOR POPE FRANCIS AND NOT THE FFI

The issue is Vatican Council II for the Vatican. Pope Francis and Cardinal Braz de Avez want the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II (irrational). The FFI refuse to do this. They are correct. Why should they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally ? Why create a break with Tradition when you can avoid it?

THE COUNCIL IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR THE FFI

The issue is no  more Vatican Council II for them. They can accept Vatican Council II interpreted rationally which is in harmony with Tradition. So they would be affirming the Council and Tradition.

They have a right to canonical recognition. They are not rejecting the Council and so are not in schism.Neither are they changing the interpretation of the Creeds and Catechisms.

Vatican Council II is now an issue for Pope Francis and Cardinal Braz de Avez. It is the CDF which is irrational and unethical.

POPE FRANCIS MUST AFFIRM VATICAN COUNCIL II

If Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II rationally i.e he would have to announce that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to only invisible and hypothetical cases in 1965-2023 ( which is obvious and common sense) then the Council does not have any practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442). These Councils did not mention any exceptions for EENS. So Pope Francis would be affirming EENS and the rest of Tradition. When the cardinals and bishops follow him then the whole Church returns to Tradition.

When the Catholic Church is once against traditional the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Comitato dell Immaculata could review its position on the property in their possession. They could also reach an agreement with the parish and the church regarding the damage to the church and its renovation.

POPE FRANCIS MUST INTERPRET MAGISTERIAL DOCUMENTS RATIONALLY

The onus lies with Pope Francis. He must interpret the Council and all Magisterial Documents rationally. Then all the religious communities, including the Franciscans of the Immaculate can follow him. The traditionalist-liberal division in the Catholic Church ends. Even new administration of the FFI, which offers Mass in Italian,  will have to be traditional. -Lionel Andrades