Why should all the cardinals and bishops interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms like cardinals Hollerich and Grech and Pope Francis and not like me? They have an obligation to be honest.

Cardinals  Hollerich and Grech’s  ‘listening’ and ‘walking together’ is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally, a Council which is dishonest and not honest, heretical and not orthodox , nontraditional instead of traditional and public schism with the past Magisterium over the centuries.

This is the official heresy of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and Pope Francis.

It is an objective and factual public error in the interpretation of Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Catechisms etc). It cannot be called Magisterial. For it to be Magisterial the interpretation has to be rational only.

The two cardinals and Sister Nathalie Bequart interpret LG 8, 14 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, Gs 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being physically visible cases in 1965-2023. Since LG 8 etc are objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, they imply that these are visible cases, objectively known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church. They would have to be visible. Since invisible people cannot be objective exceptions for the dogma EENS of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which did not mention any exceptions.

So these cardinals and Sister Nathalie Bequart do not want the past exclusivist ecclesiology on mission, salvation, matrimony, LGBT sex etc. So they have interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally in the Methodology of the first session of the 16^th Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of Bishops on the these:” For a synodal Church: communion, participation, mission”( 4 to 29 October 2023).By interpreting the Council irrationally in October they will not judge polygamy as a sin just as divorce and re-marriage is not a sin for Pope Francis. Cardinal Walter Kasper has said that if Vatican Council II can change the ecclesiology of the Church why cannot the divorce and remarried be given the Eucharist at Mass. He means Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.

 

They know that with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally i.e. LG 8, 14, 16 etc being only hypothetical and invisible cases in 1965-2023, there are no exceptions for the dogma EENS, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors. The Church returns to traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. Inter faith marriages are adultery and the couple should not receive the Eucharist. Practicing homosexuals also should not be given the Eucharist until they repent and change their lifestyle. These are the traditional teachings of the Church which are supported by Vatican Council II. The Council, interpreted rationally, has the hermeneutic of continuity with Feeneyite EENS and the rest of Tradition.

So with the discovery of Vatican Council II, rational, we are back to the past exclusivist ecclesiology, traditional faith and morals, and the old understanding of mission which is ecclesiocentric and also Christocentric.

This also requires ‘listening to’ and ‘walking together’ and ‘not being judgmental’.

I interpret Vatican Council II rationally. So the Council does not contradict Feeneyite EENS and the Fourth Lateran Council. There is no change in the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church for me. I am following the pre and post Vatican Council II Magisterium which does not change. Pope Francis and cardinals Hollerich and Grech are not doing the same. In this sense they are not Magisterial. Dishonesty is not Magisterial.

I follow the traditional teachings of the Church on homosexual sex being a mortal sin, inter faith marriages being adultery, polygamy being a grave sin etc. These moral teachings are not contradicted by Vatican Council II interpreted rationally with the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Pope Francis and cardinals Hollerich and Grech and Sr. Nathalie Bequart cannot say the same. They are not Magisterial when they reject the past Magisterium by using a false premise and inference to create new theologies and a new ecclesiology.

Why should all the cardinals and bishops interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms like cardinals Hollerich and Grech and Pope Francis and not like me? They have an obligation to be honest.- Lionel Andrades