OCTOBER 21, 2022
Creeds change with the interpretation of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance
There are two interpretations of the Creeds. It depends upon how you interpret the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I). If BOD and I.I are interpreted rationally or irrationally, the meaning of the Creeds change. The Rational or Irrational Premise, creates orthodoxy or heresy. With Feeneyism or Cushingism, the conclusion of the Creeds is traditional or non traditional.
Not only the Creeds change with the premise chosen but also Vatican Council II. We can interpret the baptism of desire (LG 14) and being saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) with the Rational or Irrational Premise.Then the Conclusion of Vatican Council II is either a continuity or a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
In the same way EENS itself is Feeneyite or Cushingite. When we interpret the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, with the rational premise, then it supports EENS Feeneyite.This is EENS with BOD and I.I not being being exceptions . When we interpret BOD and I.I with the Irrational Premise then there is EENS with BOD and I.I being visible examples of salvation outside the Church in the present times. It is wrongly inferred that BOD and I.I are visible.They become practical exceptions for EENS.
NICENE CREED
1.So when the Nicene Creed states :‘We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins’ , we can interpret this line with the Rational or Irrational Premise, with Feeneyism or with Cushingism. The conclusion will be traditional or non traditional, orthodox or heretical.
APOSTLES CREED
2.When we say in the Apostles Creed,’ "I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints", it can be interpreted with the Rational or Irrational Premise, with Feeneyism or Cushingism. So for you, does the Holy Spirit teach the Catholic Church today that outside the Church there is no salvation or outside the Church there is salvation ?
ATHANASIUS CREED
3.We can read in the same way, the Athanasius Creed when it states : ‘Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith unless every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.’
With the Rational Premise we are saying that everyone needs to be a member of the Catholic Church for salvation and there are no known exceptions. With the Irrational Premise we are saying that everyone needs to be a member of the Catholic Church for salvation but there are known exceptions.This is irrational Cushingism.It is contradictory. It does not make sense.
Catholics in general, including the popes, cardinals, bishops- and the traditionalists , interpret the Creeds with the irrational premise.They assume there are visible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance. This is an objective mistake.
CDF 1949 LETTER A POLITICAL-LEFT DOCUMENT
The objective mistake, the New Theology, has come into the Church from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston.The Letter was kept hidden for about three years before it was made public. The CDF Letter was part of the political-Left agenda to eliminate the dogma EENS in the Catholic Church. It supported heresy and schism with its New Theology.The New Theology says outside the Church there is known salvation; visible cases of non Catholics saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water. The philosophical foundation for the New Theology is the Irrational Premise.
PREMISE DETERMINES ORTHODOXY OF CREEDS
OCTOBER 20, 2022
TUESDAY, MARCH 7, 2023
The TV 2000 and RAI TV producers in Italy interpret Lumen Gentium 8, Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Nostra Aetate 2, Gaudium et Specs 22 etc irrationally.
The TV 2000 and RAI TV producers in Italy interpret Lumen Gentium 8, Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Nostra Aetate 2, Gausium et Specs 22 etc irrationally. For me LG 8 etc refer to invisible cases. For them it refers to visible and known people.Only in this way can they reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). Invisible people cannot be practical exceptions for EENS.So what is invisible has to be projected as being visible.
But they do not want to affirm EENS. They want a break with Tradition. So they confuse what is invisible ( LG 8 etc) as being visible. Then they conclude that EENS etc is obsolete.
The same error is made by Italian cardinals and bishops on TV . They infer that there are known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times. So the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors are obsolete. They conclude that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition.
Cardinal Semeraro in Albano, Italy does not affirm the dogma EENS since he interprets LG 8,14, 16 etc as referring to explicit cases of non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church in the present times. I don’t make this mistake.
Pope Francis was interviewed on the Creed by TV 2000.He interprets the Nicene Creed with the False Premise and it does not show when he recites the Creed.
Fr. Sergio Palumba, the Rector at the parish church San Camillio de Lellis, via Salustiana, Rome was interviewed by TV 2000. This Camilian priest like the rest of the community interprets LG 8 etc irrationally. So there is a rupture with EENS as it was affirmed by St. Camillio de Lellis.
I affirm EENS like St. Camillio de Lellis and I interpret LG 8 etc as being only hypothetical cases. They obviously refer to physically invisible people in the present times. This is common knowledge.
There is a major error on Vatican Council II made by the television stations and no one corrects them. They interpret the Creeds, Catechisms, Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) wrongly.They made a mistake on the baptism of desire(BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), which were interpreted with the False Premise. They accepted the objective error in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office(LOHO).
LOHO projected invisible cases of BOD and I.I as being objective exceptions for Feeneyite EENS. LOHO was placed in the Denzinger with this error and referenced in Vatican Council II.
Since 1949 the main line Church has been in schism and heresy. It will take them some time to get back to normal after the error is made public.
Since the time Pope Francis joined the Jesuits, he has been interpreting the 1949 LOHO and Vatican Council II irrationally.
A former District Superior of the SSPX at Albano, who is now in England, appeared on a TV program. He also interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally.- Lionel Andrades
JUNE 25, 2020
TV 2000 staff in Italy interpret the Creeds with a false premise
The TV 2000 staff in Italy interpret the Creed with a false premise and they have no comment on this issue.In a controversial interview of Pope Francis, the interviewet does not mention that the Creeds and Vatican Council II can be interpreted with or without a false premise and TV 2000 has chosen the irrational option like Pope Francis.
Even the different groups of the Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Society of St.Pius X make the same mistake.
The same problem exists in Italy and TV 2000 could do a program on this issue.-Lionel Andrades
JUNE 23, 2020
Pope Francis and my interpretation of the Creeds is different.Priests do not say that I am wrong.
JUNE 24, 2020
According to Canon Law, Cardinal Marx and Bishop Georg Batzing have to be Catholic. They must affirm Catholic teachings in public. However we know that they both reject the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors. They do this in the name of Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. It is the same with Massimo Faggioli and Alberto Melloni of the Bologna School (FSCIRE) in Italy.
According to Canon Law, Cardinal Marx and Bishop Georg Batzing have to be Catholic. They must affirm Catholic teachings in public. However we know that they both reject the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors. They do this in the name of Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. It is the same with Massimo Faggioli and Alberto Melloni of the Bologna School (FSCIRE) in Italy.
We now know that Lumen Gentium 8, Lumen Gentium 14, Lumen Gentium 16, Unitatis Redintigratio 3, Nostra Aetate 2, Gaudium Specs 22, can be interpreted rationally or irrationally. There are two different conclusions. If interpreted rationally they do not contradict the ecumenism of return of the Syllabus of Errors. The German bishops choose to be irrational. So LG 8 etc contradicts the traditional ecumenism based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
Marx and Batzing need the false break with Tradition. They interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.
The traditional conclusion of Vatican Council II interpreted rationally is accepted by the SSPX. They are traditionalists. This cannot be accepted by the liberal German Synod Way. The liberals know that their liberalism comes only with the Council interpreted irrationally. They have to pretend that invisible cases of LG 8 etc are visible. They suggest that these are known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times.
How can someone saved with the baptism of desire (LG 14) or in invincible ignorance (LG 16) for example, be known to us human beings? They would be in Heaven. How can they be visible on earth and in Heaven at the same time?
Those Catholics who do not affirm the Creeds in their original interpretation are automatically excommunicated as heretics. This is the official teaching of the Church according to Canon Law. It is not just my personal opinion.
The Creeds are not interpreted rationally by the German bishops. There is no denial from them.
Heresy is a mortal sin. There is no denial from the German bishops. Since they want to support the Left and not affirm the dogma EENS. They need to interpret the Creeds and Catechisms irrationally to break with Tradition.
Canonically they are not Catholic and cannot hold their office. It is the same for a Rector, Parish Priest or Religious Superior in Germany. It is the same for Pope Francis and all the Cardinals and Bishops.
There is the need for the SSPX to set up a Canonical Office or Department to handle these problems. There are so many of them. For example, there is Bishop Charles More rod op, in Switzerland. He interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally. So he will not affirm the Catechism of the Council of Trent and Pius X. There is no more exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church for him. He has no right to be a bishop. We know that Vatican Council II (rational) does not contradict the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X. There is no break with the Syllabus of Errors.
Bishop Morerod and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, Ladaria were officials of the International Theological Commission. They coordinated with Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. They produced theological papers while interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally.
Ladaria also headed the Vatican theologians in the doctrinal talks with the SSPX. This was during the pontificate of Pope Benedict. This issue of Vatican Council II being able to be interpreted only rationally and so ethically was not brought up at these talks.
They could not be discussed. Pope Benedict did not interpret Vatican Council II rationally. If he interpreted the Council rationally he would be affirming Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).He would be endorsing EENS according to the missionaries of the 16th century.
This was an important canonical issue. The SSPX did not correct the error.- Lionel Andrades
OCTOBER 20, 2022
Creeds do not unite :official heresy and schism
OCTOBER 20, 2022
Creeds are no more a sign of unity in the Catholic Church. There are two interpretations of the Nicene, Apostles and Athanasius Creed
FUORI DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA NON C’E SALVEZZA
(OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION)
GIOV.3:5, MC.16:16
(JOHN 3:5, MARK 16:16)
CONCILIO VATICANO II (AG7/LG14)
(VATICAN COUNCIL II (AG7/LG14)
CATECHISMO DELLA CHIESA CATTOLICA (846)
(CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 846)
CATECHISMO DEL TRENTO, CATECHISMO DEL PAPA PIO X,
(CATECHISM OF TRENT, CATECHISM OF POPE PIUS X)
CONCILIO LATERANO (1215), CONCILIO DI FIRENZE (1442)
FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL (1215), COUNCIL OF FLORENCE (1442).
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