The Lega Salvini and other conservative political parties in Italy do not affirm the Catholic Faith on Vatican Council II. They want to be politically
correct with the Left. Precisely, they avoid the Anti Semitic charge and excommunication by the Vatican. The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the Vatican do not affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally i.e. with invisible
cases just being invisible. Instead , physically invisible cases cited in Lumen Gentium 16 ( being saved in invincible ignorance) refer to a physically invisible case in 1965-2024. This is irrational. It is suggested that there are defacto exceptions for the dogma EENS ; the Feeneyite version, in Lumen Gentium 16.
SALVINI AT LATIN MASS
Matteo Salvini goes for the Latin Mass offered by the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX). The SSPX who does not interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 etc as being physically invisible cases in 1965 -2024. Since then there would be no practical exceptions; no exceptions, in the Council-text for the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).They would be accused of being Feeneyite. So they want exceptions for EENS.
So they interpret LG 8,14,1,5,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 as being physically visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church and so objective exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, the ecclesiocentrism of the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q).
ROBERTO FIORE
Similarly Roberto Forte of the political party Forza Nuova attends the SSPX Mass in Rome. But he does not affirm Vatican Council II rationally and neither do the SSPX priests
from District Albano, Italy. The priests who offer the Latin Mass in Rome do
not want to comment on this issue.
Fabrizio Lastei and the Militia Christi in Rome will not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with no visible exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.Since then he would come under the radar of the political Left .He would be accused of being Anti Semitic etc.
MILITIA CHRISTI
So the Militia Christi,
traditionalists, who go for the Latin Mass and support the SSPX do not proclaim
the Catholic Faith in public.It was the same with the former Spiritual Director of the Militia Christi, the late Mons. Ignacio Barreiro.
Even Catholic politicians who attend Mass in Italian do not proclaim the dogma EENS nor Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally.
SSPX CANADA SUPERIOR IN DENIAL
Objectively the SSPX and those who go for the Novus Ordo Mass deny the Catholic Faith. This is the crisis that the SSPX does not want to talk about it. It is not spoken about by Fr.David Sherry, the District Superior of Canada, in this video below.
LEFEBVRE DID NOT KNOW
Even Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre did not interpret Vatican Council II, rationally, and so expose the objective mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston, issued by Pope Pius XII.
I have tried to speak to the SSPX priest in Rome . He does not want to proclaim the Catholic Faith on Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Like the SSPX bishops and priests he interprets the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms irrationally to reject the dogma EENS according to the Church Councils (1215 etc) which did not mention any exceptions.
SSPX POLITICAL POSITION ON VATICAN COUNCIL II
This is a kind of political position of the SSPX on Vatican. They are not talking about it. They 'do not hold fast to what was beleived by all Catholics over all time'.
Part of the crisis in the Church is that the traditionalists have become modernists like those
many Catholics who attend the Novus Ordo Mass. Many prominent Catholic politicians are in this category. - Lionel Andrades
APRIL 5, 2024
There no more is modernism when we interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being only hypothetical cases. They are invisible cases in 1965-2024. So they do not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology. We can affirm Vatican Council II (rational) and the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed. This is irrelevant of the popes. Doctrine stays constant. There no more is modernism. There no more is a development of doctrine based upon Vatican Council II.
The modernism was there when Vatican Council II is interpreted irrationally and Pope Paul VI did not correct it. The modernism comes from the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston and Pope Pius XII and Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani, let it pass.
But there is no more modernism when we interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being only hypothetical cases. They are invisible cases in 1965-2024. So they do not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology. We can affirm Vatican Council II (rational) and the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed. This is irrelevant of the popes. Doctrine stays constant. There no more is modernism. There no more is a development of doctrine based upon Vatican Council II. - Lionel Andrades
JANUARY 20, 2017
Matteo Salvini and the Lega Nord members need to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and ask the two popes and the Congregation for the Doctrrine of the Faith to do the same.
Matteo Salvini ask Lega Nord members to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) :stop the deception of the Vatican http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/matteo-salvini-ask-lega-nord-members-to.html
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What is Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ? What is the difference between Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/what-is-vatican-council-ii-cushingite.html
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2019
This is a political issue in Italy, which Salvini and Meloni must bring up before their political opponents, their political parties, the judiciary, ecclesiastics and Italians in general
MONDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2019
The liberal media still ignores how Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition but supports the old exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors when interpreted rationally.This is a news story. It's news when Vatican Council II is interpreted with the hermeneutic of continuity with the Magisterium, and missionaries of the 16th century.
JANUARY 20, 2017
Matteo Salvini and the Lega Nord members need to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and ask the two popes and the Congregation for the Doctrrine of the Faith to do the same.
Matteo Salvini ask Lega Nord members to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) :stop the deception of the Vatican http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/matteo-salvini-ask-lega-nord-members-to.html
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What is Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ? What is the difference between Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ?
SATURDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2019
This is a political issue in Italy, which Salvini and Meloni must bring up before their political opponents, their political parties, the judiciary, ecclesiastics and Italians in general
MONDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2019
The liberal media still ignores how Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition but supports the old exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors when interpreted rationally.This is a news story. It's news when Vatican Council II is interpreted with the hermeneutic of continuity with the Magisterium, and missionaries of the 16th century.
Vatican Council II is in harmony with St. Maximillian Kolbe on evangelisation.This is news. but it is not being reported.-Lionel Andrades
APRIL 24, 2023
Catholic political parties deny the Catholic Faith for political reasons
Selene Ticchi D’Urso an Italian from Budrio,Bologna, Italy,a member of the political party Forza Nuova was fined 9000 Euros with four months in jail, for wearing a T-shirt which the Jewish Left considered Anti-Semitic.She was then absolved by a tribunal from Forli, Italy.
https://www.sana.sy/en/?p=75501
Forza Nuova, the political party headed by Roberto Fiore, suspended her indefinitely. Now if Fiore, who attends the Latin Mass at the SSPX chapel in Rome, says he affirms the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and for him LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3. NA 2 GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are only hypothetical cases in 1965-2023, then he too would be labeled Anti Semitic.
The Jewish Left would campaign against Forza Nuova.
So Roberto Fiore does not affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally i.e. LG 8,25,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical cases only and are not objective exceptions for 12th century EENS.
It is the same with the SSPX priests at Albano who come to Rome on Sunday mornings.They are all looking after their worldly interests on this issue.
Even the political parties Lega Salvini and Fratelli Italia are not appealing to Pope Francis to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and accept the traditional conclusion.
Neither are the Catholics in these political parties, at the rank and file level, doing the same.
Imagine it! - The traditionalists in Rome do not want to affirm Tradition, for political reasons.They actually want Vatican Council II to be a rupture and not continuity with Tradition.
SSPX SEMINARIANS STUDY AT PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITIES
Yesterday the SSPX priest who offered Mass at the SSPX chapel near the basilica of St. Mary Majors in Rome, said, amongst other things, that their seminarians at Albano, about four or five of them, were allowed to study at the pontifical universities in Rome. Of course this is approved by Pope Francis. I thought to myself, that these SSPX seminarians were allowed to study at the liberal pontifical universities because they were not Anti Semitic in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms. They had rejected Tradition. They had reneged on the Catholic Faith, in public, and so have been approved politically. This is the same as members of Forza Nuova or relatives of Roberto Fiore, who could also study as lay people, at the pontifical universities in Rome.
The SSPX General Chapter (2012) which issued a Statement supporting EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215).
Now since they are not Anti Semitic they do not have a problem with employment, travel, housing etc. They choose to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and so create false exceptions for the past Councils.
Forza Nuova actually cooperates with the Muslim police to deny the Catholic Faith at the SSPX chapel near the Cavour metro station. Roberto Fiore is aligned with the Zionists on this issue of Vatican Council II.He does not oppose them with Vatican Council II ( rational).
How can FN claim to support the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics when they reject Vatican Council II ( rational) and re-interpret the Catechism of Pope Pius X irrationally ( 29Q-visible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance etc) ? Proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King depends upon the past exclusivist ecclesiology.
Now the SSPX has a politically correct Latin Mass which is a rupture with the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass in the 16th century.
Roberto Fiore has aligned himself with the Jewish Left (ADL, B’nai Brith etc) on Vatican Council II. This is pro globalist and pro-Soros like the Mass held the other day by a Masonic Anglican at the John Lateran Basilica. This was where Pope Honorius III issued the Fourth Lateran Council at the time St Dominic Guzman and the founders of the Dominican Order of Preachers.
In these times when the traditionalists do not affirm the Faith like the liberal Catholic-Anglicans, it is becoming difficult to be a Catholic in Rome. - Lionel Andrades
https://www.lagazzettadelmezzogiorno.it/news/english/1074593/forza-nuova-suspends-auschwitzland-t-shirt-wearer.html
https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2023/01/13/indosso-la-maglietta-con-la-scritta-auschwitzland-a-predappio-il-tribunale-di-forli-assolve-selene-ticchi/6935008/
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