Friday, August 30, 2024

For Aaron Seng and Tradivox, the passages in red contradict the passages in blue. But for me they do not. For me the passages in red are hypothetical cases. They are invisible people in 2024.

 "Outside the Church there is no salvation" 

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: 
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: 
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."
-Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848 

For Aaron Seng and Tradivox, the passages in red contradict the passages in blue. But for me they do not. For me the passages in red are hypothetical cases. They are invisible people in 2024.

But for Aaron and the traditionalists and liberals in general, the passages in red are non hypothetical cases. They would have to objective and known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church for them to be exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the orthodox passages in blue. An invisible person cannot be an exception. Someone has to be there in our reality, he has to be present to be an exception.  - Lionel Andrades

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