AUGUST 11, 2013
At the Pontifical Institute of Liturgy, San Anselmo University, Rome Benedictine priest-professors, offer Holy Mass negating the Nicene and Athanasius Creed.
Monastic spirituality at San Anselmo University is irrational and so a break with the faith of the first centuries.
SUNDAY, MAY 8, 2022
The Vatican Secretary and Assistant Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worshop and Andrea Grillo and the Pontifical Liturgical Institute of St. Anselm University, Rome, are unethical and dishonest when they interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents with the False Premise to create division in the Catholic Church
The Vatican Secretary and Assistant Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worshop and Andrea Grillo and the Pontifical Liturgical Institute of St. Anselm University, Rome, are unethical and dishonest when they interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents with the False Premise to create a break with the past ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. This is creating division in the Church.
Pope Francis addressed members of the Pontifical Liturgical Institute of the Benedictine University of St. Anselm.They all interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents with a False Premise.This creates ecclesial unity, with liberalism and division with the past Magisterium. -Lionel Andrades
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MARCH 8, 2014
Critics of TLM with 'idealogy' of extra ecclesiam nulla salus speak at Liturgical Course in Rome
AUGUST 28, 2012
When they interpret Vatican Council II according to Cushingism and not Fr. Leonard Feeney it has its influence on the liturgy
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/08/a-vatican-ii-moment-masonic-memorial.html
http://eponymousflower.blogspot.it/2012/08/satanic-mockery-in-brazil.html
SSPX CAN ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS ACCORDING TO FR.LEONARD FEENEY AND NOT RICHARD CUSHING
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10, 2021
My interpretation of the Nicene and Apostles Creed is different from yours
My interpretation of the Nicene and Apostles Creed is different from yours. - Lionel Andrades
MARCH 9, 2021
The Creeds are no more a sign of unity in the Catholic Church since there can be two interpretations.
Someone placed copies of the Apostles Creed on the table at the entrance of the church where I went for Holy Mass today in Italian.
The Creeds are no more a sign of unity in the Church since there can be two interpretations. The line marked in red is now controversial.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints..- Apostles Creed
The confusion came into the Church during the Fr. Leonard Feeney case when unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) were considered objective exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
So the New Theology said there is salvation outside the Church; known salvation, while the past Magisterium would state over the centuries that outside the Church there is no salvation.
So for me,the the Holy Spirit teaches the Catholic Church today ( Ad Gentes 7, Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 etc) that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation and all must accept Jesus and his teachings in the Catholic Church to avoid Hell and go to Heaven.
While for other Catholics in church the new teaching is that the Holy Spirit teaches the Church today that outside the Church there is salvation and all do not need to be members of the Church ,to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.
For me being in communion with the saints means affirming the past interpretation of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance which was rational. It did not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS.
Those who recite the Apostles Creed in the Church today are in a rupture theologically and doctrinally with the Apostles, the Church Fathers, the saints of the Middle Ages and the saints before the 1940s like St. Maximillian Kolbe who held the strict interpretation of EENS and affirmed the Athanasius Creed too.
Most Catholics are in a break with the saints, since today they interpret BOD and I.I as practical exceptions to EENS. Catholics have to choose to believe in BOD and I.I or EENS. So they contradict the past saints.
I can accept both-BOD and I.I and EENS- and I do not have to choose. The BOD and I.I are invisible cases for me in 2021 but the rest of the Church implies that they are visible. So they become practical exceptions to Feeneyite EENS for them.
For me the Letter of the Holy Office 1949(LOHO) made an objective mistake which was overlooked at Vatican Council II. The present two popes and many traditionalists, accept the LOHO with the mistake and do not correct it.
The Nicene Creed affirms the necessity of the baptism of water for the forgiveness of sins and the Athanasius Creed says outside the Church there is no salvation.-Lionel Andrades
https://lifeteen.com/blog/why-do-catholics-pray-the-creed/
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FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Cardinal Ratzinger is a Cushingite and has interpreted the Nicene Creed with a false premise and inference which was not the understanding of the past centuries.Ignatius Press has published Credo for Today addressed to Christians and not Catholics. The Nicene Creed can be interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism and the conclusion would be different.
- Nicene Creed (10)
- Nicene Creed was changed with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 mistake (6)
- Nicene Creed-two interpretations (1)
FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Literal and objective errors mark Pope Benedict's books published by Ignatius Press.He has interpreted the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II irrationally
FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Living the Catechism of the Catholic Church by Cardinal Schonborn (Ignatius) is inadequate. It has interpreted the Catechism irrationally with the Cushingite premise, inference and conclusion. The Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the Ratzinger theology.
FEBRUARY 2, 2020
Fr.Aidan Nicols Dominican Master of Sacred Theology has authored The Theology of Joseph Ratzinger (1988) and like the pope interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and conclusion. This is a fault line in the books of Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict pubished by Ignatius Press.Pope Benedict and Fr. Nicols need to stop promoting their books with the misinformation
FEBRUARY 1, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to acknowledge that Pope Benedict, Aidan Nicols and so many of their authors have made an objective mistake
JANUARY 3, 2020
Another book on salvation being promoted by Ignatius Press and EWTN https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/another-misleading-book-on-salvation.html
JANUARY 14, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to pull back Pope Benedict's book on ecclesiology since it was written with a false interpretation of Vatican Council II.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-pull-back-pope.html
JANUARY 21, 2020
Ignatius Press needs to stop publishing books on Vatican Council II by authors who interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA, 2, GS 22 etc as being exceptions to traditional extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).Books written by Pope Benedict also carry this error https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/ignatius-press-needs-to-stop-publishing.html
FALSE PREMISE DEFINED Their false premise is:-1. Invisible people are visible.2.Unknown case of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are personally known.3.The unknown case of the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but dies before he received it and is saved, is a personally known person.4.There is known salvation outside the Catholic Church for us human beings.5.We can see people in Heaven saved without the baptism of water.6.We can physically see non Catholics in Heaven and on earth who are saved without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).7.There are non Catholics who are dead- men visible and walking who are saved outside the Church.8.There are known people in invincible ignorance through no fault of their own, who are saved.9.There are some Anglicans and Protestants whom we know who are going to Heaven even though they are outside the Catholic Church.10.There are some non Catholics whom we know, who are dead, and now are in Heaven, even though they were not Catholic.
With the false premise there are 'objective exceptions' to EENS. There are visible exceptions to the Athanasius Creed, the Nicene Creed is changed, there is a new understanding of the Nicene Creed etc :-1. The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is contradicted.2. The Nicene Creed in which we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' over the centuries referred to only one known baptism, the baptism of water.The baptism of desire etc cannot be given to someone like the baptism of water.But now the understanding is ' I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins ( desire,blood and ignorance) and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'.
3. The Apostles Creed says ' we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church'. Over the centuries it was understood that the Holy Spirit guided the Catholic Church and taught that there was no salvation outside the Church.Now unknown cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance, and LG 8, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, are assumd to be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
4.In the past three Church Councils defined the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in the extraordinary Magisterium .It was an 'infallible teaching' for Pope Pius X( Letter of the Holy Offie 1949).Now it is obsolete with their being alleged known salvation outside the Church.
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
6.With the false premise the Catechism of Pope Pius X contradict itself. It affirms the strict interpretation of EENS while invincible invincible ignorance is intepreted as referring to personally known non Catholics saved outside the Chuch.Invincible ignorance is not seen as a hypothetical case only.7.Redemptoris Missio, Dominus Iesus, Ecclesia in Asia, Balamand Declaration etc were all written upholding the false premise. They did not support exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. So in a subtle way they contradicted EENS(Feeneyite), the Athanasius Creed etc. They did not support the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.They are Christological without the traditional ecclesiocentric ecclesiology. It's Christ without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church for salvation.
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/08/cardinal-reinhold-marx-of-munich.html
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2021 Pope Francis wants the Italian National Catechetical Office, of the Italian Bishops Conference, to use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and so reject the Athanasius Creed and change the meaning of the Nicene Creed Pope Francis: Catechesis is the echo of the Word of God
5.Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted with the false premise so they become a rupture with EENS( Feeneyite), the Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.
8. Traditional mission based upon exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is rejected. Since with the false premise, there is salvation outside the Church.
9.Inter faith marriages which are not Sacraments are common held.It is no more adultery. Since the non Catholic spouse could be saved outside the Church it is assumed. A posibility which could only be known to God is assumed to be a practical exception to EENS and a literally known case of salvation outside the Church in a personal case.
10. There is a new heretical ecclesiology at Holy Mass in all the rites and liturgies. The Latin Mass today does not have the same exclusivist ecclesiology of the Tridentine Rite Mass of the missionaries in the 16th century.
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 2021 Pope Francis wants the Italian National Catechetical Office, of the Italian Bishops Conference, to use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and so reject the Athanasius Creed and change the meaning of the Nicene Creed Pope Francis: Catechesis is the echo of the Word of God
OCTOBER 18, 2018
We have two interpretations of the Nicene Creed-mine and that of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the SSPX, F.I, FSSP etc.
This is magisterium: the Council is the magisterium of the Church. Either you are with the Church and therefore you follow the Council, and if you do not follow the Council or you interpret it in your own way, as you wish, you are not with the Church. We must be demanding and strict on this point. The Council should not be negotiated in order to have more of these... No, the Council is as it is. And this problem that we are experiencing, of selectivity with respect to the Council, has been repeated throughout history with other Councils. It makes me think of a group of bishops who, after Vatican I, left, a group of lay people, groups, to continue the “true doctrine” that was not that of Vatican I: “We are the true Catholics”. Today they ordain women. The strictest attitude, to guard the faith without the Magisterium of the Church, leads you to ruin. Please, no concessions to those who try to present a catechesis that does not agree with the Magisterium of the Church.-Pope Francis, Audience with participants in the meeting promoted by the National Catechetical Office of the Italian Episcopal Conference, 30.01.2021
https://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2021/01/30/210130b.html
Pope Francis wants the Italian National Catechetical Office, of the Italian Bishops Conference, to use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and so reject the Athanasius Creed and change the meaning of the Nicene Creed.
He considers this Magisterial even though this is manifest public heresy and a rupture with the Magisterium of the Catholic Church over the centuries. -Lionel Andrades
OCTOBER 18, 2018
We have two interpretations of the Nicene Creed-mine and that of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the SSPX, F.I, FSSP etc.
DECEMBER 15, 2017
JULY 3, 2017
The bottom line is that we are all reciting the Nicene Creed but there are two different interpretationsSEPTEMBER 10, 2016
The Vatican Curia interprets the Nicene Creed with irrational Cushingism : 'I believe in three known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins.'MARCH 29, 2016
October 9, 2016
October 9, 2016
The Catechism of Pope Pius X is Feeneyite.It supports Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and contradicts Pope Pius XII and the Archbishop of Boston. See numbers 24Q and 27Q.Confusion today comes with 29Q. It can be interpreted as being visible or invisible http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/the-catechism-of-pope-pius-x-is.html
Cardinal Muller, Archbishop Di Noia and Bishop Fellay's theology is based on invisible cases being visible, what is not seen as being seen
SSPX doctrinal position is politically correct and heretical : Bishop Fellay interprets EENS and Vatican Council II assuming hypothetical cases are objectively known in the present times.
Apologists Mons. Clifford Fenton, Fr.William Most and Fr. John Hardon considered implicit cases as being explicit: traditionalists agree any one who does this is wrong http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/apologists-mons-clifford-fenton.html
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Archbishop Thomas E.Gullickson says Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errorshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-thomas-egullickson-says.html#links
CATHOLIC PRIESTS IN ROME AGREE WITH FR.LEONARD FEENEY: THERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/catholic-priests-in-rome-agree-with.html#links
Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martigioni http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/implicit-intention-invincible-ignorance.html
OCTOBER 16, 2013
DEAN OF THEOLOGY AT ST. ANSELM SAYS THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/dean-of-theology-at-st-anselm-says.html
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Bishop Bernard Fellay made a factual mistake in Letter to Friends and Benefactors no. 82 : we cannot see the dead http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/05/bishop-bernard-fellay-has-made-factual.html#links
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2016
MONDAY, APRIL 4, 2016
On a hierarchy of values, where would you place your concern. Is this the HEART of the Gospel, the Catholic Faith or not? How much hangs on it, would you say?
Since in reality the Nicene Creed has been changed.Before the Council of Trent the Nicene Creed did not mean 'I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water. They are the baptism of desire ( without the baptism of water), being saved in invincible ignorance ( without the baptism of water etc'.
We are theologically rejecting John 3:5 and Mark 16:15 by suggesting not everyone in the present times needs to be a formal member of the Church with faith and the baptism of water.
Theologically we are rejecting the Great Commission by suggesting that there is known salvation outside the Church.
This issue is central to the divide in the Catholic Church over Vatican Council II.It is at the centre of the SSPX-Vatican reconcliation.
It will be wrongly used by Cardinal Walter Kasper to suggest that doctrine and dogma has changed in the Catholic Church ( with the use of an irrational inference which he will not mention) and so the Church can change its other teachings e.g giving the Eucharist to the divorced and remarried.
Ths issue is at the centre of mission and evangelisation based on the knowledge of the majority of people going to Hell because of Original Sin and mortal sins committed in that state.
This issue decides if the Traditional Latin Mass( and the Novus Ordo Mass) is offered with the old ecclesiology or the new ecclesiology.The present new theology of the TLM is based upon an irrationality.
This issue decides if Vatican Council II is not an exception to the dogma EENS and so there is no change presently in post Vatican Council II ecumenism and inter religious dialogue based upon the text of Vatican Council II which can be interpreted with Feeneyism, instead of the present Cushingism.
-Lionel Andrades
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 18, 2015
Mark Shea then uses this same irrationality (false premise-the dead-saved are visible) with a false conclusion (they are exceptions to all needing to convert) to allege that Lumen Gentium 16 ( saved in invincible ignorance ) is an explicit exception to Ad Gentes 7 ( all need faith and baptism for salvation) and Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
He rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, changes the Nicene Creed and presents us with an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.
Mark Shea cannot say that any particular person in 2015 has been saved as such or will be saved as such in future without Catholic Faith.
FRIDAY, JANUARY 30, 2015
It is because there are exceptions to the dogma for him I say that there is not one known baptism but three known baptisms for him.
There are exceptions to the dogma for him? Then it means there are explict exceptions.If it was not explicit it would not be an exception.
This of course is not how the Nicene Creed was understood by St.Maximillian Kolbe.This is not the Atranasius Creed of earlier times, which said outside the Church there is no salvation.There are no exceptions, visible or invisible mentioned in those Creeds. Now we have the theology of exceptions.
It is obvious heresy from the magisteriuim . Fr.Volpi is not the only one repeating it.It is also the heresy of the Marchetti letter.
Even the'Lefebvrists' unknowingly support it.
Fr.Volpi wants the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept the new one, which is heretical and irrational. Probably they are already doing so.
Where are the visible exceptions in Rome or the Vatican, to I believe in one known baptism for the forgiveness of sin?
For me there are no known exceptions to the Nicene Creed or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Vatican Council II does not mention any.
-Lionel Andrades
JANUARY 11, 2019
Athanasius Creed not accepted for a Profession of Faith in the Diocese of Manchester
Similarly a Profession of Faith with the Apostles Creed would be different from that of the 16th century.
In the 16th century it meant ' I believe in the Holy Spirit , the Holy Catholic Church' which teaches outside the Church there is no salvation and all people need to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell.
Today it means, 'I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church' which teaches that outside the Church there is known salvation and so all people do not need to be members of the Church for salvation.
-Lionel Andrades
MARCH 26, 2016
Vatican Council II also becomes traditional with the Feeneyite theology. Since LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc refer to invisible cases and so they do not contradict the Athanasian Creed.
- Comment from the Remnant Newspaper
BENEDICT BREAKS HIS SILENCE... WITH ANOTHER LEAKY LIFEBOAT
- ratified by 2 Councils, either made an error or it didn't.
- If it made an error, then the Catholic Church is not
- THE Church of Christ.
- Lionel:
- There was no error in the Athanasian Creed. The error was there in the Rahner-Ratzinger new theology which assumes there is known salvation outside the Church. This is the innovation. It is interpreting the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with Cushingism ( there are known exceptions to EENS) and rejecting traditional Feeneyism as a theology( there are no known exceptions to EENS).
- We simply have to use Feeneyism as a theology once again, as did the 16th century missionaries. Then the Athanasius Creed is not contradicted.
- There is no change in the Nicene Creed too ( I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins ( and not three).
- Vatican Council II also becomes traditional with the Feeneyite theology. Since LG 16, LG 8, UR 3 etc refer to invisible cases and so they do not contradict the Athanasian Creed.
- -Lionel Andrades
- http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2374-benedict-breaks-his-silence-with-another-leaky-lifeboat
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AUGUST 15, 2015
Can the Athanasius Creed be recited in Church today ? Yes!
SUMMARY
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2011
FR.LEONARD FEENEY RECITED THE ATHANASIUS CREED AND THE EXCOMMUNICATION WAS LIFTED
The actual lifting of Father’s excommunication was executed by Fr. Richard Shmaruk, a priest of the Boston Archdiocese, on behalf of Bishop Bernard Flanagan of Worcester. While visiting Boston about ten years ago, I spoke with Fr. Shmaruk and he personally corroborated the events that led to him reconciling Fr. Feeney with the Church.
On pages 259 to 262 of his book They Fought the Good Fight, Brother Thomas Mary Sennott diligently chronicles the reconciliation of Fr. Feeney, as well as the subsequent reconciliation of several of Father’s spiritual descendants. Brother Sennott quotes from two respectable Catholic news sources (The Advocate and the Catholic Free Press). I have independently confirmed the quotations and context of the primary sources.
-Lionel AndradesBrother Sennottt also notes that Father’s memorial mass was celebrated by Bishop Bernard Flanagan in the Cathedral of St. Paul, Worcester. This would have given rise to scandal had Father not been fully reconciled with the Church. Br. Sennott’s book received an imprimi potest from Bishop Timothy Harrington of the Diocese of Worcester, meaning the book is free from doctrinal or moral error. Thus unless one is willing to declare oneself sedevacantist or sedeprivationist, the evidence is overwhelming that Fr. Feeney died in full communion with the Church without recanting his position.- Peter Vere Canon Lawyer on the Status of those who hold Fr.Leonard Feeney’s Doctrinal Position
MONDAY, JANUARY 10, 2011
RENEWAL OF BAPTISM VOWS: ‘THIS IS OUR FAITH’. NO IT'S NOT!
Do I affirm the Athanasius Creed? Yes ! I do!