The Franciscans of the Immaculate and the Brazilian community Joseleitos di Christo, both have been based in the Diocese of Porta Santa Rufina, Roma where Bishop Gino Reali, is the bishop.
The two religious communities with whom I have communicated in writing, would agree with the following seven points. So they would interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.
SEVEN POINTS
1. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II always refer to hypothetical, speculative and theoretical cases.So they are not practical exceptions to the exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. There is no objective rupture with the Athanasius Creed which says all need Catholic faith for salvation.
2. They agree that Jesus died for all, salvation is open for all in potential but to receive this salvation all need to enter the Church, with faith and baptism(AG 7). The Church is necessary ( Dominus Iesus 20, CDF, Notification on Fr.Jacques Dupuis sj 2000 etc).
3. They interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise, just like me. LG 14, LG 16 etc are only hypothetical. They are not objective cases in 2021.
4. The baptism of desire(BDD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance (I.I) refer to only hypothetical cases. If any one has received salvation with BOD, BOB and I.I only God can know.
5.The Church teaches in Vatican Council II( without the false premise) that everyone who dies in 2021, without faith and baptism, are oriented to Hell in general, in principle.
6. It is a lie and deception when someone uses the false premise to interpret the Nicene Creed, Vatican Council II. Catechisms, the dogma EENS and BOD, BOB and I.I.
7. Catholics need to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. There is a rational option.-Lionel Andrades
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JULY 12, 2020
Franciscans of the Immaculate at Boccea, Rome affirm the obvious
All the priests and seminarians of the Franciscans of the Immaculate(F.I) seminary Casalotti, Boccea, Rome agree with me. I was living with them during the three- month lockdown. For them, and me, there are no physically visible non Catholics in 2020, saved outside the Church.
There were about 30 students of theology at the Collegio Terra Santa, three priests and two deacons.They all accept the obvious.They cannot meet or see in real life, someone saved without faith and baptism.
Father Rosario Sammarco F.I, is the Italian Rector of the seminary. He is also the Superior. He offers Holy Mass in the parish Santa Maria di Nazareth, only in Italian.
The seminary is approved by Pope Francis and is in the diocese of Porta Santa Rufina. The bishop is Gino Reali.I have been living under their old unused church, which recently was converted into a Eucharistic Adoration chapel for the Friars.
None of the Friars know of any one saved outside the Church, without faith and baptism. Obviously. This can only be known to God.But such an obvious thing is not known to the other F.I community also known as the 'Latin group' or the 'crypto Lefebvrists'.
Fr. Stefano Manelli and Fr. Gabriel Pellettieri could agree with the community at Boccea. There are no physically visible non Catholics saved outside the Church in 2020.So in Vatican Council II LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 must only refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases . Speculation.There are no objective exceptions in Vatican Council II to 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).There are no exceptions to the Athanasius Creed which states all need the Catholic faith for salvation. All.There are no exceptions to Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II which states all need faith and baptism for salvation. All.
So in Vatican Council II there are no exceptions to Tradition( Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX, Catechism of Pius X etc).Can Fr. Paulo Siano F.I issue a statement on this ?
When Fr. Settimo Manelli F.I was the Rector of the seminary and the Parish Priest at Boccea,the community would interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition.So they rejected the Council.
They believed LG 8, LG 16 etc are exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and so they implied that LG 8, LG 16 etc are personally visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. Only if they are visible they could be exceptions. But how can invisible cases (LG 8, LG 16 etc) be visible examples of salvation outside the Church?
Every one at Boccea agrees now that there are no such visible cases.
The Lefebvrists in general and the liberals Cardinal Braz de Avez and Fr. Sabino Ardito SDB , the Apostolic Commissioner ,still use the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II.They expect all religious communities to irrationally make the same error, for canonical recognition .-Lionel Andrades
CASALOTTI
Santa Maria di NazarethVia Boccea, 590
00166 ROMA - Casalotti
tel/fax 06.61.56.02.91► sito web Parrocchia
Abitanti: 8.000 circa
Santa Maria di NazarethVia Boccea, 590
00166 ROMA - Casalotti
tel/fax 06.61.56.02.91► sito web Parrocchia
Abitanti: 8.000 circa
Affidata a: Frati Francescani dell’Immacolata
Parroco: Padre Giuseppe GRIONI
Vicario Parrocchiale: Padre Simon M. MBACHILIN
Parroco: Padre Giuseppe GRIONI
Vicario Parrocchiale: Padre Simon M. MBACHILIN
JANUARY 10, 2020
Professors Tangorra, Fuss,Chenaux, Nardin,Ciola, Zak, Ferri and others do not tell students at the St. John Lateran University, Rome that Vatican Council II does not mention any exception to the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), as it was known to Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/professors-tangorra-fusschenaux.html
Michelt, Stancati, Weimann, Ellul, Rossi, Destivelle, Keramidas, Buckles, Bonino, Sullivan, Blankenhorn, Giordano and other professors at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas Rome, the whole group, are interpreting Lumen Gentium 8 etc as being exceptions to 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)- when they are not.
DECEMBER 31, 2019
Michelt, Stancati, Weimann, Ellul, Rossi, Destivelle, Keramidas, Buckles, Bonino, Sullivan, Blankenhorn, Giordano and other professors at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas Rome, the whole group, are interpreting Lumen Gentium 8 etc as being exceptions to 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)- when they are not.
JANUARY 7, 2020
Fr.Francesco Giordano and Prof. Sandra Mazzolini's theology is political and they suggest it is from the Holy Spirit
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/frfrancesco-giordano-and-prof-sandra.html
JANUARY 4, 2020
The Handook of Studies of the Urbaniana Pontifical University, Rome ( Ordo) shows like the Handook of Studies of the Angelicum University Rome ( 2019-2020) that Vatican Council II is interpreted irrationally to create a rupture with traditional mission doctrine, the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church, an ecumenism of return and extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the miissionaries in the 16th century
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-handook-of-studies-of-urbaniana.html
JANUARY 6, 2020
When Sr.Catherine Droste op, Dean of Theology at the Angelicum, teaches the moral theology of St. Thomas Aquinas but interprets Vatican Council II with a false premise and inference, it is unethical.It would also be academically unethical for Prof. Fr. Wojciech Giertych o.p, to reject the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS because of an irrational and deceptive interpretation of Vatican Council II
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/when-srcatherine-droste-op-dean-of.html
JANUARY 1, 2020
List of professors associated with the Angelicum University, Rome according to their website. Most of them are expected to use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/list-of-professors-associated-with.html
DECEMBER 31, 2019
Liberals, traditionalists and sedevacantists make a mistake. Vatican Council II is a rupture with Tradition for them ( Graphics )
DECEMBER 31, 2019
The Dominicans are unethical academically and yet Propaganda Fide disburses millions of euros, for students from all over the world, to study at Dominican institutionsDECEMBER 31, 2019
Michelt, Stancati, Weimann, Ellul, Rossi, Destivelle, Keramidas, Buckles, Bonino, Sullivan, Blankenhorn, Giordano and other professors at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas Rome, the whole group, are interpreting Lumen Gentium 8 etc as being exceptions to 16th century extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)- when they are not.https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/michelt-stancati-weimann-ellul-rossi.html
DECEMBER 30, 2019
Angelicum Dean of Theology un-ethical : no denial or clarification from her
DECEMBER 30, 2019
Professors would violate the Principle of Non Contradiction of Aristotle and they would be teaching us about Aristotle and PlatoDECEMBER 30, 2019
I am not allowed to study philosophy or theology at the Angelicum University,Rome since I interpret Vatican Council II rationally .But non Catholics who do not accept Vatican Council II, are permitted to enroll, and proclaim my faith honestly.This is discrimination based upon religion
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/i-am-not-allowed-to-study-philosophy-or.html
DECEMBER 29, 2019
Angelicum Dean of Theology will not comment
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1H9FRNCjWerFxsfX-Wt2z53I3H3XSVdEi/view
At the Angelicum and Gregorian University,Rome, they approve doctoral thesis only of students who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.This is unethical and dishonest. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/at-angelicum-and-gregorian.html
DECEMBER 11, 2019
Sr.Elisa Ann Nutt will defend her doctoral thesis tomorrow at the Angelicum University and her moderator will be Prof. Wojciech Giertych o.p, the papal theologian : both interpret Vatican Council II irrationally like the rest of the students and facultyhttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/srelisa-ann-nutt-will-defend-her.html
DECEMBER 10, 2019
There is a formation course at the University of St.Thomas Aquinas, on the new ecumenism, titled Ut Unum Sint which interprets Unitatis Reintigratio in Vatican Council II has having exceptions to the traditional interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.
DECEMBER 11, 2019
At the Angelicum and Gregorian University,Rome, they approve doctoral thesis only of students who interpret Vatican Council II irrationally.This is unethical and dishonest. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/at-angelicum-and-gregorian.html
JANUARY 4, 2020
Papal theologian at the Angelicum made a mistake : no comment https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/papal-theologian-at-angelicum-made.html
Papal theologian at the Angelicum made a mistake : no comment https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/papal-theologian-at-angelicum-made.html JANUARY 4, 2020
Rector needs to clarify this issue for Maronites all over the world. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/maronite-rector-needs-to-clarify-this.html
JANUARY 4, 2020
Rector needs to clarify this issue for Maronites all over the world. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/maronite-rector-needs-to-clarify-this.html
JANUARY 3, 2020Seminarians at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas, Rome,have to pretend and insincerely memorize material which is irrational and false https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-priest-at-maronite-pontifical-college.html
JANUARY 3, 2020
Seminarians at the University of St. Thomas Aquinas, Rome,have to pretend and insincerely memorize material which is irrational and false https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-priest-at-maronite-pontifical-college.html
JANUARY 3, 2020 Excommunicated Scottish hermits now have the freedom to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and preach the Gospel according to the popes and saints over the centuries, on no salvation outside the Church. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/excommunicated-scottish-hermits-now.html
JANUARY 3, 2020 Excommunicated Scottish hermits now have the freedom to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise and preach the Gospel according to the popes and saints over the centuries, on no salvation outside the Church. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/excommunicated-scottish-hermits-now.html
JANUARY 3, 2020
John XXIII Foundation for Religious Sciences (FSCIRE), the "Bologna School, interprets Vatican Council II with the common false premise.There is no transparency on this issue
JANUARY 3, 2020
We can accept St. Emerentiana and St. Victor as saints but to assume that they are in Heaven without the baptism of water is speculation. The Church does not name any one who had the gift to see them in Heaven without the baptism of water. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/we-can-accept-st-emerentiana-and-st.html
JANUARY 3, 2020
The St.Benedict Center is not heretical but traditional on EENS and Vatican Council II
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-stbenedict-center-are-not-heretical.html
SANUARY 2, 2020 
With Cushingism there is public heresy. The understanding of the Creeds are changed.The Athanasius Creed is rejected.This is a scandal. This is common among the professors and students at the Angelicum University. There is no denial or clarification from any of the priests or religous sisters, who are professors. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/with-cushingism-there-is-public-heresy.html
The St.Benedict Center is not heretical but traditional on EENS and Vatican Council II
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-stbenedict-center-are-not-heretical.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-stbenedict-center-are-not-heretical.html
SANUARY 2, 2020 With Cushingism there is public heresy. The understanding of the Creeds are changed.The Athanasius Creed is rejected.This is a scandal. This is common among the professors and students at the Angelicum University. There is no denial or clarification from any of the priests or religous sisters, who are professors. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/with-cushingism-there-is-public-heresy.html
With Cushingism there is public heresy. The understanding of the Creeds are changed.The Athanasius Creed is rejected.This is a scandal. This is common among the professors and students at the Angelicum University. There is no denial or clarification from any of the priests or religous sisters, who are professors. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/with-cushingism-there-is-public-heresy.htmlDECEMBER 13, 2019
Catholics are discriminated in Rome because of their religion : seventeen years in Rome and I am still waiting to be a priest.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/catholics-are-discriminated-in-rome.html
DECEMBER 8, 2019
No ambiguity in Vatican Council II ( Graphics )
DECEMBER 6, 2019
Those days are of saying that Fr. Leonard Feeney was wrong are over. We know that Lumen Gentium 8 always refers to a physically invisible case.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/those-days-are-of-saying-that-fr.html
DECEMBER 8, 2019
It's heresy, scandal and sacrilege from the top to the rest of the Church. The two living popes do not interpret Vatican Council II rationally.They could if they wanted.
DECEMBER 3, 2019
All the books on Vatican Council II at Oxford University have an error. At the St. Benet Hall Oxford they agree with me.There is no denial from the Rector or the professors, resident and visiting, who have been informed by me through e-mails.Even Prof. Joseph Shaw, at Benet Hall, associated with Una Voce International and the Latin Mass Societies, and an author of a book on liturgy, has no denial.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/12/all-books-on-vatican-council-ii-at.html
DECEMBER 4, 2019
Oxford University like the University of Bristol, U.,K are producing irrational books on Vatican Council II which create a false rupture with Catholic Tradition. Gavin D'Costa at the University of Bristol teaches students to interpret Vatican Council II non rationally, even after he and the university management are informed. Joseph Shaw does the same at St. Benet Hall, Oxford.
TERMS CLARIFIED
BOD( Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
BOB (Baptism of Blood. The case of unknown person who is in Heaven as a martyr without the baptism of water)
I.I (Invincible ignorance: The case of an unknown non Catholics who is in Heaven without faith and baptism and instead in invincible ignorance.)
LG 8 ( Lumen Gentium 8: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth' or where the true Church of Christ allegedly subsists.
LG 14 (Lumen Gentium 14: Baptism of Desire . Case of the unknown cathechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is allegedly saved and now in Heaven)
LG 16 ( Lumen Gentium 16: The case of the unknown person saved outside the Church in invincible ignorance and who is now in Heaven without faith and the baptism of water)
UR 3 (Unitatitis Redintigratiio 3, Vatican Council II : The case of the unknown Christian, who is saved in his religions without Catholic faith or the baptism of water in the Catholic Church and is allegedly known to someone on earth who has seen him or her in Heaven).
NA 2( Nostra Aetate 2: The case of the unknown non Catholic saved outside the Catholic Church without faith and baptism. He or she is saved with good and holy things in other religion or with the a ray of that Truth which enlightens all mankind.
GS 22 (Gaudium et Specs 22. The case of the unknown non Catholic who is saved outside the Catholic Church. He or she is saved without faith and baptism but with goodwill.
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