Thursday, August 12, 2010

THREE DOMINICAN PRIESTS EXPOSED TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ROME

Three Dominican priests were exposed to the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus for the first time at the Basilica of St. Mary Majors Rome today morning. None of the three were willing to say that the dogma says everyone needs to be a visible, formal member of the Catholic Church for salvation and that there were no exceptions.

The three priests were Fr. Luca Dempsey (Ireland), Fr. Joseph Tran (Vietnam) and Fr. Timothy Brouser (Holland). They were in the confessional and I went and spoke to them face to face for nearly hour since it is the holiday month and there are less people in Rome these days.

Fr. Joseph Than could not believe that this was a church teaching. I asked him if this was the first time he was reading the text, he did not answer.

Fr. Dempsey asked me where I found this text. I said it was on the Internet at many places.

Fr. Timothy did not agree with the dogma and he was uncomfortable.

Here is the text I showed them.

1. “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved.” (Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215). Ex cathedra.

2.“We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” (Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302.).Ex cathedra.

3.“The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” (Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.) Ex cathedra – from the website Catholicism.org and “No Salvation outside the Church”: Link List, the Three Dogmatic Statements Regarding EENS
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