Friday, November 22, 2013

Herbert Spencer, as a Catholic, could explain to bishops Vatican Council II does not contradict Tradition on salvation

Herbert Spencer was to speak in the diocese of Worcester,USA but could not because the bishop, Robert J.McManus prevented it.He could now ask to  speak abut Catholic doctrines after Vatican Council II. He could explain how magisterial documents can be interpreted with or without a false premise. He could mention how Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, without the irrational premise, supports the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church on Islam and other religions.
Herbert Spencer could speak on Islam and Mohammad as indicated by Vatican Council II and it would be an education for the Catholics in Worcester, Boston etc.
It is never mentioned that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church  tells us that all Muslims, are lost forever, unless they have 'faith and baptism'. (AG 7,Vatican Council II ), so also for Mohammad.
Vatican Council II also says directly that those who know about  Jesus and the Church and it its necessity for salvation, those who have had the Catholic Faith proclaimed to them and who are not in invincible ignorance, are on the way to Hell. The Koran shows that Mohammad knew about the Church.
Mohammad was not in invincible ignorance.He did not have the baptism of desire.He was not in imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3) nor had the 'seeds of the Word' (AG 11 etc).
He condoned polygamy and taught that one's sins are forgiven by circling a large stone , with related activity in Mecca.
Herbert Spencer,  as a Catholic, could explain to the bishops that Vatican Council II (AG 7) has the same message as the  defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It was defined by three Church Councils.
Vatican Council II in principle only, indicates that a Muslim could be  saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) etc and these cases would be known only to God. In principle only since de facto (in fact) there cannot be a known case.In 2013 all need to defacto  enter the Church, for salvation.One does not know any Muslim who is an exception.
Vatican Council II does not state that there are known exceptions to AG 7 or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Neither does the Council state LG 16, LG 8, AG 11,UR 3, NA 2 etc are known exceptions to the traditional teaching on other religions and Christan communities.
So according to Vatican Council II, in Worcester,Manchester and Boston, and the rest of the USA , all Muslims, and other Catholics,with no known exception in  2013, are oriented to Hell unless they convert. This is the official teaching of the Catholic Church in Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (845, 846).
The Catholic official teaching on Islam, according to magisterial documents, are  never  mentioned on the websites of Robert Spencer.
The Catholics of Boston, and Worcester, are using a false premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.They make the same error in the interpretation of the  Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr.Leonard Feeney. The Letter supported Fr.Leonard Feeney on doctrine(dogma).While being saved with the baptism of desire etc were possibilities only. They were not known exceptions.
There are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as interpreted by Fr.Leonard Feeney.
All the Catholic religious communities in USA could accept the 'rigoirst intepretaion' of Fr.Leonard Feeney along with the possibility of being saved in invincible ignorance and implicit desire. It is not contrary to the Principle of Non  Contradiction.
So when we Catholics proclaim are Faith on Islam and other religions  it should not be mistaken for racisim or hate.When Spencer is critical of Islam it is based on a general truth of the Catholic Faith which says all need faith and baptism for salvation.(Jn:3:5,Mk.16:16) We do not enforce these views violently.
-Lionel Andrades