Friday, March 23, 2018

So the fault does not lie with Vatican Council II but how they interpret the Council and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 : Bishop Bernard Fellay's mistake

So now we know that the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (LOHO) is heretical since by assuming invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) were visible exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), it had the dogma EENS rejected.This was schism with the past popes on EENS.
This irrational reasoning from LOHO has been used by the liberals to reject traditional EENS.The most recent case was that of Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j at the Press Conference on Placuit Deo  this March 1, 2018.

None of the journalists there asked him how could Lumen Gentium 8 be an exception to EENS ?
Today, 23 days since his public mistake at the Press Conference in the question and answer session,non of the traditionalists and sedevacantists bring up the issue.
No one says Lumen Gentium 8 refers to an unknown and invisible  person. They have not told him that we cannot know of any one saved with 'elements of sanctification and truth'(LG 8), with or without the baptism of water.


So Lumen Gentium 8 never was an exception to the Church's teaching on the superiority and exclusiveness of salvation.
This irrational reasoning which come from LOHO was also used by Bishop Bernard Fellay.

Bishop Bernard Fellay the Superior General of the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) in his Letter to Friends and Benefactors no. 82 says 'The same declaration (LG. 8) also recognizes the presence of “salvific elements” in non-Catholic Christian communities' and the SSPX bishop concludes that
'Such statements are irreconcilable with the dogma “No salvation outside of the Church,” which was reaffirmed by a Letter of the Holy Office on August 8, 1949.' 1

Bishop Fellay is referring to Lumen Gentium 8.He makes the same mistake. For him LG 8 refers to visible and personally known people saved outside the Church, when there cannot be any such case for us humans.


























Letter to Friends and Benefactors no. 87 he mentions extra ecclesiam nulla salus but is still not aware of his mistake.2

This was also the reasoning of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre , the Dietrich and Alice von Hildebrand, Michael Davis and the traditionalists of their time.They had all accepted the false premise of ther LOHO.
Bishop Fellay would be willing to criticize Vatican Council II and the popes since John XXIII but not the LOHO and Pope Pius XII.It was the same with Archbishop Lefebvre.
They did not know that if they corrected the error in the LOHO the popes since John XXIII and Vatican Council II would no more be a problem.











Since they could interpret BOD, BOB and I.I  as not being an exception to EENS.
Also LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, LG 14, LG 16, GS 22  etc would not be an exception to EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the ecumenism of return and the past exclusivist ecclesiology of  the Catholic Church.
So the fault does not lie with Vatican Council II but how they interpret the Council and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.-Lionel Andrades





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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/if-salza-siscoe-admit-something-obvious.html


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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/04/the-dogma-outside-church-there-is-no.html












JANUARY 16, 2018












I love Vatican Council II it has the hermeneutic of continuity with the past ecclesiology of an ecumenism of return
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/i-love-vatican-council-ii-it-has.html





Liberals can no more cite Vatican Council II (Graphics)
























-Lionel Andrades

 MARCH 21, 2018


Liberals cannot any more cite the Council they are bankrupt

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/liberals-cannot-any-more-cite-council.html



 MARCH 19, 2018




Repost : Liberalism based on Cushingite  Council II is obsolete.The average Catholic, the rank and file Catholic is intelligent enough to know what is rational and who is faking it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/repost-liberalism-based-on-cushingite.html