Thursday, May 25, 2023

The new Concordat between the Vatican and the state of Italy is obsolete with the discovery of Vatican Council II interpreted rationally.

 

The new Concordat between the Vatican and the state of Italy is obsolete and not valid since we have discovered that Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally and the Church returns to Tradition. The new Concordat is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. With the old Concordat (1929) the state of Italy recognized the traditional faith and morals of the Catholic Church which are not contradicted by Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally.

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Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican Secretary of State must interpret Vatican Council II rationally since this is the ethical thing to do. The Catholic Church returns to Tradition and the past exclusivist ecclesiology.- Lionel Andrades



MAY 4, 2023

Concordat is schismatic

 

There cannot be a Concordat between a pro-Satan secular state in Italy and a Vatican State in schism, caused with the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. The Church has a rational option, which can only be traditional like historical Rome. It would oppose the present Government in Italy, on faith and morals.- Lionel Andrades


 JULY 17, 2013

Vatican Council II does not contradict the Concordat of 1929

The Concordat of 1929  signed by Pope Pius XI (and the Italian government) made Catholicism the sole religion of the state (although other religions were tolerated), paid salaries to priests and bishops, recognized church marriages (previously couples had to have a civil ceremony), and brought religious instruction into the public schools. In turn, the bishops swore allegiance to the Italian state, which had a veto power over their selection.-Wikipedia
 
In 1965 Vatican Council II stated all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation (AG 7) and those saved in invincible ignorance etc (LG 16), reason tells us,are  not known exceptions to AG 7 or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So Vatican Council II in doctrine and theology supported Pope Pius XI and Italy being a Catholic State.
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Pope Pius XI condemned, in his 1928 encyclical, Mortalium Animos, the idea that Christian unity could be attained by establishing a broad federation of many bodies holding varying doctrines (the widespread view among Protestant ecumenists); rather, the Catholic Church was the one true Church, all her teachings were objectively true, and Christian unity could only be by achieved by non-Catholic denominations rejoining the Catholic Church and accepting the doctrines they had rejected.-Wikipedia
 
  Vatican Council II( AG 7) says all need Catholic Faith for salvation. All include Christians. So Vatican Council II in doctrine and theology agrees with Pope Pius XI's concept of ecumenism.
 
Political parties in Italy need to acknowledge that Vatican Council II supports the traditional Catholic teaching on other religions and salvation. It mentions the necessity of all Christians, Orthodox Christians and Protestants, entering the Church for salvation, it affirms the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So it reinforces Primacy being there in only the Catholic Church. According to Vatican Council II (AG 7) there cannot be a Collegiality which suggests  non Catholic religions, or other Christians, are in religions which are paths to salvation.
 
Vatican Council II is traditional.
 
The Council is not traditional for the leftist media in Italy and abroad, since they confuse in principle statements mentioned in Vatican Council II as being defacto and known to us in the present times.They assume that what is mentioned as implicit, in principle and in theory are real and known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Catholic Tradition.
 
The leftist media also use this false premise, of assuming we can see the dead saved in invincible ignorance, seeds of the Word etc, to criticize the literal interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation.They claim it is  no more  valid. So they  suggest that Vatican Council II contradicted the Concordat of 1929 which made Catholicism the State Religion.They interpert Vatican Council II with the Richard Cushing Error.

Without the Richard Cushing Error Vatican Council II is as traditional as Pope Pius XI. Catholic political parties in Italy have still to acknowledge this.
-Lionel Andrades
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2013/07/vatican-council-ii-does-not-contradict.html

WEDNESDAY, JULY 17, 2013

Vatican Council II does not contradict the Concordat of 1929

The Concordat of 1929  signed by Pope Pius XI (and the Italian government) made Catholicism the sole religion of the state (although other religions were tolerated), paid salaries to priests and bishops, recognized church marriages (previously couples had to have a civil ceremony), and brought religious instruction into the public schools. In turn, the bishops swore allegiance to the Italian state, which had a veto power over their selection.-Wikipedia
 
In 1965 Vatican Council II stated all need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation (AG 7) and those saved in invincible ignorance etc (LG 16), reason tells us,are  not known exceptions to AG 7 or the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So Vatican Council II in doctrine and theology supported Pope Pius XI and Italy being a Catholic State.
Papst Pius XI. 1JS.jpg 
Pope Pius XI condemned, in his 1928 encyclical, Mortalium Animos, the idea that Christian unity could be attained by establishing a broad federation of many bodies holding varying doctrines (the widespread view among Protestant ecumenists); rather, the Catholic Church was the one true Church, all her teachings were objectively true, and Christian unity could only be by achieved by non-Catholic denominations rejoining the Catholic Church and accepting the doctrines they had rejected.-Wikipedia
 
  Vatican Council II( AG 7) says all need Catholic Faith for salvation. All include Christians. So Vatican Council II in doctrine and theology agrees with Pope Pius XI's concept of ecumenism.
 
Political parties in Italy need to acknowledge that Vatican Council II supports the traditional Catholic teaching on other religions and salvation. It mentions the necessity of all Christians, Orthodox Christians and Protestants, entering the Church for salvation, it affirms the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So it reinforces Primacy being there in only the Catholic Church. According to Vatican Council II (AG 7) there cannot be a Collegiality which suggests  non Catholic religions, or other Christians, are in religions which are paths to salvation.
 
Vatican Council II is traditional.
 
The Council is not traditional for the leftist media in Italy and abroad, since they confuse in principle statements mentioned in Vatican Council II as being defacto and known to us in the present times.They assume that what is mentioned as implicit, in principle and in theory are real and known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Catholic Tradition.
 
The leftist media also use this false premise, of assuming we can see the dead saved in invincible ignorance, seeds of the Word etc, to criticize the literal interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation.They claim it is  no more  valid. So they  suggest that Vatican Council II contradicted the Concordat of 1929 which made Catholicism the State Religion.They interpert Vatican Council II with the Richard Cushing Error.

Without the Richard Cushing Error Vatican Council II is as traditional as Pope Pius XI. Catholic political parties in Italy have still to acknowledge this.
-Lionel Andrades


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Don Davide Pagliarani is not telling Catholics that Traditionis Custode was issued with Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not ratioinally. The SSPX is not telling Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II rationally in harmony with the Fourth Lateran Coucnil on EENS. This is also the mistake of the Ecclesia Dei communities.

CMTV is still not telling Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II rationally.CMTV must refuse to interpret Vatican Council II like the Archbishop of Detroit, the CDF and the ADL.


https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/cmtv-is-still-not-telling-catholics-to.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/cmtv-must-refuse-to-interpret-vatican.html


MAY 25, 2023

CMTV must refuse to interpret Vatican Council II like the Archbishop of Detroit, the CDF and the ADL.

There is no clarification or correction from Michael Voris at Church Militant TV. He agrees with me. There is no denial. He is not telling Catholics that they can interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being invisible, hypothetical and speculative cases only. They are not visible and practical examples of salvation outside the Church and so are not exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and the Athanasius Creed. They do not contradict the Syllabus of Error of Pope Pius IX on an ecumenism of return to the Church. They are not a break with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. They do not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church which is not expressed in the New Evangelisation, New Ecclesiology, New Ecumenism and New Theology.

LG 8 etc have a continuity with Tradition and this is not wanted by the liberals and Masons.They are possibilities known only to God, when all needing faith and baptism of water for salvation, is also a possibility known to God. If anyone is saved outside the Catholic Church it is not part of our human reality. We cannot meet and see such cases.

So if Michael Voris says that LG 8,14, 16 etc refer to only hypothetical cases and not objective exceptions for the dogma EENS and the Syllabus of Errors, CMTV will be saying that all Jews, Muslims and other non Christians, are oriented to Hell without faith and baptism in the Catholic Church and that in Heaven there are only Catholics.

This would be opposed by the political left.

The Archbishop of Detroit and the Vatican would excommunicate him, like ‘the Church’ excommunicated Fr. Leonard Feeney politically, for affirming the Fourth Lateran Council and the Council of Florence on traditional EENS. The ADL would put restrictions on CMTV as a media.

CMTV should really refuse to interpret Vatican Council II like the Archbishop of Detroit, the CDF and the ADL. - Lionel Andrades

 MAY 24, 2023

CMTV is still not telling Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II rationally

 

Michael Voris, Simon Rafe, Christine Niles, Bradley Eili and Jules Gomes  are still not affirming the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) in harmony with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. They want to avoid trouble with the Attorney General in Detroit and the Archbishop of Detroit Allen Vigneron. So they are politically correct with the Left on Catholic doctrine, like the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican. They are calling this irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II Magisterial, since it is supported politically by Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, Prefect of the CDF, who are unethical and dishonest, like them at CMTV.

This is a scandal. For political reasons Church Militant TV is rejecting the dogma EENS and re-interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and they are not telling Catholics to avoid this error.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/cmtv-is-still-not-telling-catholics-to.html


MAY 21, 2023

Public mortal sins which Pope Francis and the CDF must correct

 PUBLIC MORTAL SINS WHICH POPE FRANICS AND THE CDF MUST CORRECT

Pope Francis has committed the following mortal sins.These are some which come to mind off hand.They are as follows.

1). He interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. So his conclusion is heretical and schismatic.It changes the interpretation of de fide teachings, Creeds and Catechisms.

2). Since he interprets Vatican Council II irrationally, he changes the interpretation of the Nicene Creed. Again this is heretical.It is schism with the Magisterium over the centuries.They did not interpret the Creeds with the irrational premise.They did not interpret the baptism of desire with the irrational premise.

3). Since he interprets Vatican Council II and the baptism of desire etc irrationally, he rejects the Athanasius Creed.This Creeds says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation. The pope is saying there are known exceptions in the present times. He implies that there are visible non Catholics saved outside the Church. This is first class heresy according to the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II (Ad Teuendem Fidem).To contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or the Athanasius Creed there would have to be physically visible exceptoins. It is only then that EENS etc become obsolete.Invisible cases cannot be exceptions for EENS in the present times ( 1949-2023).

4) Since he has interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally he has produced a new ecclesiology and so justifies changes in traditional morals too, as in the case of Amoris Laetitia etc.He has not excommunicated the German bishops who also justify their moral liberalism. They base it upon  Vatican Council II irrational. - Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/public-mortal-sins-which-pope-francis.html

MAY 21, 2023

Michael Voris is not telling viewers that Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally and then the Council will be in harmony with the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) :The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is Cushingite and political on this issue and so not Magisterial

 

Michael Voris is not telling viewers that Vatican Council II can be interpreted rationally and then the Council will be in harmony with the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), which he does not support for political reasons. He does not want to be labeled a Feeneyite.It would be Anti Semitic for the Jewish Left.

So he leaves Catholics in the dark, uninformed. He looks after his liberal reputation and the financial position of Church Militant TV. In the Vortex, 'lies and truths' are no more captured on this issue, since it could be expensive. Neither can he criticize the US bishops or the SSPX for not interpreting Vatican Council II rationally instead of irrationally, since then he would have to do the same.

CDF WAS NOT MAGISTERIAL IN THE 1949 LETTER

Michael Voris says that he follows the Magisterium of the Church and so also the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican. 

1. But the CDF was Cushingite in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (CDF) to the Archbishop of Boston. The CDF chose the irrational premise to interpret the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance. This is was unethical and not Catholic. It was political.

2.The CDF was also Cushingite at Vatican Council II (1965). It interpreted invisible cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being visible exceptions for the dogma EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council.

This Council says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and the CDF, in the 1949 Letter says not everyone needs to enter the Church for salvation, as if there are personally known exceptions for them in the present times.

Even today the CDF projects Vatican Council II as a rupture with the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors. This is an objective mistake in public and cannot be Magisterial. This is political and not Catholic.

 The CDF was also not Magisterial on this issue during the pontificate of Pope Benedict. As Prefect of the CDF, Pope Benedict rejected the Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors and 16th century EENS of the missionaries. They were rejected in the name of Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally.

The rational interpretation of Vatican Council II would not be appreciated or tolerated by the Mosaad, the Pasdaran and the equivalent organization in Saudi Arabia.

So Michael Voris and the CDF choose to interpret Vatican Council II deceptively and politically and they wrongly call it the magisterium.-Lionel Andrades





MAY 20, 2023




 

Sedevacantism is not the solution

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/sedevacantism-is-not-solution_20.html

MAY 19, 2023

There is also the fourth possibility, the orthodox one. Pope Francis is the pope but because of mortal sins, un-confessed and because of scandals not rectified, he is not in communion with Jesus and the Church. He lacks Sanctifying Grace and is outside the Church.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/there-is-also-fourth-possibility.html
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/michael-voris-is-not-telling-viewers.html




CMTV must refuse to interpret Vatican Council II like the Archbishop of Detroit, the CDF and the ADL.

There is no clarification or correction from Michael Voris at Church Militant TV. He agrees with me. There is no denial. He is not telling Catholics that they can interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being invisible, hypothetical and speculative cases only. They are not visible and practical examples of salvation outside the Church and so are not exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and the Athanasius Creed. They do not contradict the Syllabus of Error of Pope Pius IX on an ecumenism of return to the Church. They are not a break with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. They do not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church which is not expressed in the New Evangelisation, New Ecclesiology, New Ecumenism and New Theology.

LG 8 etc have a continuity with Tradition and this is not wanted by the liberals and Masons.They are possibilities known only to God, when all needing faith and baptism of water for salvation, is also a possibility known to God. If anyone is saved outside the Catholic Church it is not part of our human reality. We cannot meet and see such cases.

So if Michael Voris says that LG 8,14, 16 etc refer to only hypothetical cases and not objective exceptions for the dogma EENS and the Syllabus of Errors, CMTV will be saying that all Jews, Muslims and other non Christians, are oriented to Hell without faith and baptism in the Catholic Church and that in Heaven there are only Catholics.

This would be opposed by the political left.

The Archbishop of Detroit and the Vatican would excommunicate him, like ‘the Church’ excommunicated Fr. Leonard Feeney politically, for affirming the Fourth Lateran Council and the Council of Florence on traditional EENS. The ADL would put restrictions on CMTV as a media.

CMTV should really refuse to interpret Vatican Council II like the Archbishop of Detroit, the CDF and the ADL. - Lionel Andrades

 MAY 24, 2023

CMTV is still not telling Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II rationally

 

Michael Voris, Simon Rafe, Christine Niles, Bradley Eili and Jules Gomes  are still not affirming the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) in harmony with Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. They want to avoid trouble with the Attorney General in Detroit and the Archbishop of Detroit Allen Vigneron. So they are politically correct with the Left on Catholic doctrine, like the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican. They are calling this irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II Magisterial, since it is supported politically by Pope Francis and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, Prefect of the CDF, who are unethical and dishonest, like them at CMTV.

This is a scandal. For political reasons Church Militant TV is rejecting the dogma EENS and re-interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and they are not telling Catholics to avoid this error.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/05/cmtv-is-still-not-telling-catholics-to.html