Friday, July 15, 2016
But celebration ad orientem is not the central issue. Ecclesiology is.-Catholic World Report
But celebration ad orientem is not the central issue. Ecclesiology is.
Fears about ad orientem posture today are stalking horses for incoherent and ultimately groundless fears about a return to an earlier ecclesiology. Though I disagreed vehemently with certain completely backwards conclusions of Massimo Faggioli’s book True Reform: Liturgy and Ecclesiology in Sacrosanctum Concilium, he was absolutely correct that Vatican II’s reforms both contained an incipient, and helped to advance a more robust, ecclesiology of the local Church.
On Orientophobia: Coming out of the Liturgical Closet
http://www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/4920/on_orientophobia_coming_out_of_the_liturgical_closet.aspx
So why cannot Cardinal Sarah attend Mass like I do?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/07/so-why-cannot-cardinal-sarah-attend.html
The ecclesiology of the Mass will still be an innovation with Cushingism.There still is big confusion on the Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite or Cushingite), EENS, Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite or Cushingite) and the Catechism
There must be Catholic internationalism based on an ecclesiology which is the same before and after Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/07/catholic-internationalism-based-on.html
Ecclesiology Debate: Bp. Donald Sanborn vs. Dr. Robert Fastiggi (2004) : irrational non traditional Cushingite theology adopted
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/ecclesiology-debate-bp-donald-sanborn.html
THE ECCLESIOLOGY OF THE CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH, VATICAN II, ‘LUMEN GENTIUM’ IS FEENEYITE : FOR CARDINAL RATZINGER AND THE INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION IT IS CUSHINGITE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/the-ecclesiology-of-constitution-on.html
Traditionalists need to identify the cause of the old ecclesiology.Ecclesiology should not be identified with the Mass. It is independent of the Mass
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/traditionalists-need-to-identify-cause.html
I attend the Novus Ordo Mass but I would be 'ideological' for Pope Francis
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/i-attend-novus-ordo-mass-but-i-would-be.html
Cardinal Kaspar changed ecclesiology assuming B is an exception to A : he used an irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/cardinal-walter-kasper-said-in.html
Legionaries of Christ university in Rome teaches officially approved irrationality and heresy in Ecclesiology classes
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/legionaries-of-christ-university-in.html
Urbaniana Pontifical University also changes ecclesiology using the irrational premise and inference in the interpretation of Lumen Gentium,Vatican Council II
What is Mobeen going to teach?
With an irrational inference dogmas and doctrines are being thrown out at the Angelicum Universityhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/with-irrational-inference-dogmas-and.html
This semester Fr.Tommaso Stancati O.P teaches the new theology at the Angelicum based on LG 16 being explicit for us instead of implicit
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/this-semester-frtommaso-stancati-op.html
CDF needs to clarify http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/cdf-needs-to-clarify.html
I follow the Catechism of Trent in agreement with Vatican Council II and the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/08/i-follow-catechism-of-trent-in.html
BIZARRE "Demonic Attacks" Increasing WORLDWIDE! (2016)
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The entrance it seems to me was similar to a very long and narrow alleyway, like an oven, low and dark and confined; the floor seemed to me to consist of dirty,
muddy water emitting foul stench and swarming with putrid vermin...The bodily
pains were so unbearable that though I had suffered excruciating ones in this life and according to what doctors say, the worst that can be suffered on earth for all my nerves were shrunken when I was paralyzed, plus many other sufferings of many kinds that I endured and even some as I said, caused by the
devil, these were all nothing in comparison with the ones
I experienced there...-St.Teresa of Avila's description of Hell.
http://catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/St.%20Teresa%20of%20Avila%20combat%20with%20S
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These are the Tortures suffered by all the damned together, but that is not
the end of the sufferings.
There are special Tortures destined for particular souls.
the end of the sufferings.
There are special Tortures destined for particular souls.
These are the torments of the senses. Each soul undergoes terrible and indescribable sufferings related to the manner in which it has sinned.I would have diedThere are caverns and pits of torture where one form of agony differs from another. I would have died at the very sight of these tortures if the omnipotence of God had not supported me...-St.Faustina Kowalska's description of Hell.
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There was a certain rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen; and feasted sumptuously every day.
And there was a certain beggar, named Lazarus, who lay at his gate, full of sores,Desiring to be filled with the crumbs that fell from the rich man' s table, and no one did give him; moreover the dogs came, and licked his sores.
And there was a certain beggar, named Lazarus, who lay at his gate, full of sores,Desiring to be filled with the crumbs that fell from the rich man' s table, and no one did give him; moreover the dogs came, and licked his sores.
And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham' s bosom.
And the rich man also died: and he was buried in hell. And lifting up his eyes when he was in torments, he saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom: And he cried, and said:
Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, to cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame.
And Abraham said to him: Son, remember that thou didst receive good things in thy lifetime, and likewise Lazarus evil things, but now he is comforted; and thou art tormented.
And the rich man also died: and he was buried in hell. And lifting up his eyes when he was in torments, he saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom: And he cried, and said:
Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, to cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame.
And Abraham said to him: Son, remember that thou didst receive good things in thy lifetime, and likewise Lazarus evil things, but now he is comforted; and thou art tormented.
And besides all this, between us and you, there
is fixed a great chaos: so that they who would pass from hence to you, cannot, nor from thence come hither. And he said: Then, father, I beseech thee, that thou wouldst send him to my father' s house,
for I have five brethren, That he may testify unto
them, lest they also come into this place of torments. And Abraham said to him: They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. But he said: No, father Abraham: but if
one went to them from the dead, they will do penance.
is fixed a great chaos: so that they who would pass from hence to you, cannot, nor from thence come hither. And he said: Then, father, I beseech thee, that thou wouldst send him to my father' s house,
for I have five brethren, That he may testify unto
them, lest they also come into this place of torments. And Abraham said to him: They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. But he said: No, father Abraham: but if
one went to them from the dead, they will do penance.
And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead. -Luke :19-31,The Rich Man (Dives) and Lazarus.
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Expedience all around
The Anonymous Catholics critical of Amoris Laetitita suggested that Amoris Laetitia is heretical but did not state that Pope Francis and the cardinals are heretical. Amoris Laetitia accepts philosophical subjectivism in moral theology which they themself use in salvation theology.
They will not traditional salvation theology.In it the baptism of desire was only hypothetical.Instead now it is assumed that it is objective in 2016 and so is a practical exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).This is politically correct with the Left.So it is continued even though it is irrational and heretical.
They are not willing to acknowledge that just as they are being prudent and expedient the pope could be doing the same.
They accomodate the Masons and the rest of the Left and the pope could be doing the same.He may want to protect his life and to protect the Vatican.
They know the Catholic Faith like me but are not willing to proclaim it.
On the other hand,in a good example, which the Anonymous Signatories could emulate, this week we have Michael Voris proclaim the Faith clearly .It the Vortex On Being Saved.
It is with this theology , which violates the Principle of Non Contraduction that Cardinal Robert Sarah and Cardinal Vince Nicols , profess the new faith, during Holy Mass.
Their new theology is based on an irrational premise. It is being able to see people in Heaven ( or earth) saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. Then they conclude that these 'explicit' persons, are visible exceptions to all needing to enter.All do not need to enter the Church visibly; with faith and baptism, for them.These allegedly seen in the flesh persons are exceptions, for them, of salvation outside the Church;outside the visible bounds of the Church.
So when they offer Mass, pray or sermonise, they believe that in 2016 non Catholics are saved outside the Church, so non Catholics do not need to be formal members of the Church. An ecumenism of return is not necessary, since there is salvation outside the Church for them.
The Nicene Creed's'I believe in one baptism ( known) for the forgivness of sins' is changed to 'I believe in three or more known, visible for us baptisms, like the baptism of water.They are the baptism of desire and blood, being saved ininvincible ignorance etc'.
The teaching on the Social Reign of Jesus Christ over all political legislation has changed.Since now their are exceptions.So why should every one accept the Social Reign of Christ the King when there is salvation outside the Church it is asked?
The Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation is made obsolete.
Vatican Council II has to be accepted with this error and re-interpreted with this error.It is the same with the Catechism of the Catholic Church.So also with Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus, which are based on the new theology.
This is all ' a new faith' at the Latin Mass facing ad orientem or at Mass in the vernacular facing the people.This is the new faith of the Anonymous Signatories critical of Amoris Laetitia.This is the new faith taught by Fr.Brian Harrison, John Lamont and Joseph Shaw, non anonymous signatories, when they are at Holy Mass.
On the other hand,for me the baptism of desire is a hypothetical case and it is not objectively visible in 2016. So that there cannot be visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the 16th century missionaries.There are no known exceptions to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus,according to Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
So I do not follow the new faith during the Mass in any rite,ad orientem or facing the people.
Many of the Anonymous Signatories know what I am saying.However it is expedient to be anonymous. -Lionel Andrades
Vatican Council II has to be accepted with this error and re-interpreted with this error.It is the same with the Catechism of the Catholic Church.So also with Redemptoris Missio and Dominus Iesus, which are based on the new theology.
This is all ' a new faith' at the Latin Mass facing ad orientem or at Mass in the vernacular facing the people.This is the new faith of the Anonymous Signatories critical of Amoris Laetitia.This is the new faith taught by Fr.Brian Harrison, John Lamont and Joseph Shaw, non anonymous signatories, when they are at Holy Mass.
On the other hand,for me the baptism of desire is a hypothetical case and it is not objectively visible in 2016. So that there cannot be visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the 16th century missionaries.There are no known exceptions to the interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus,according to Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
So I do not follow the new faith during the Mass in any rite,ad orientem or facing the people.
Many of the Anonymous Signatories know what I am saying.However it is expedient to be anonymous. -Lionel Andrades
Youtube Can Christian women wear Bikini's? Not if they fear God
Can Christian women wear Bikini's? Not if they fear God
https://youtu.be/7z687hA9yRc
ITALIAN PRIEST SAYS IMMODESTY IS A SIN BUT WILL CONTINUE GIVING THE EUCHARIST TO THOSE DRESSED IMMODESTLYhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/italian-priest-says-immodesty-is-sin.html
IMMODESTY IN ROMES CHURCHES http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/immodesty-in-romes-churches.html
https://youtu.be/7z687hA9yRc
ITALIAN PRIEST SAYS IMMODESTY IS A SIN BUT WILL CONTINUE GIVING THE EUCHARIST TO THOSE DRESSED IMMODESTLYhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/italian-priest-says-immodesty-is-sin.html
IMMODESTY IN ROMES CHURCHES http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/08/immodesty-in-romes-churches.html
THEY WILL PLACE THE EUCHARIST ON THE PALM OF THEIR HAND AND SIT DOWN IN THEIR TIGHT JEANS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2010/05/they-will-place-eucharist-on-palm-of.html
Video : Bikini Wearing "Christian" (Caution)
https://youtu.be/JAtko-xFMcE
IMMODESTY IN CHURCH
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/06/immodesty-in-church.html
Video : Bikini Wearing "Christian" (Caution)
https://youtu.be/JAtko-xFMcE
IMMODESTY IN CHURCH
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/06/immodesty-in-church.html
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