Tuesday, June 26, 2018

What if everyone else is wrong and only Lionel is correct ? What if....?

What if everyone else is wrong and only Lionel is correct?What if...?
This is the question that  Catholics are beginning to ask.They are reading these blog posts and are aware that there is no denial coming from any source.
"Could it be possible that every one was wrong all these 50 years about Vatican Council II and that this guy is now correct?"
"Has he really noticed something that the others overlooked all these years,even the popes?"

Well, to begin with, I say that I cannot physically see a baptism of desire case  in 2018.I keep repeating it. Others agree with me here.They cannot say that they can physically see someone saved outside the Church.
I keeping saying that I cannot see in the flesh someone saved in invincible ignorance, with or without the baptism of water in 2018.No one could have see such cases in real life in 1965 or 1949 too.People agree with me.No one issues a clarification saying I am wrong. I am saying what is common knowledge.
So the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), with or without the baptism of water, is not an objective exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
How can it be an exception if there are no cases in our reality ? How can invisible people be exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church with faith and the baptism of water for salvation?
It is here where they all get stuck. They prefer not to answer.
I am not offering a new theology. I am making an objective statement,which, will show up their New Theology which says there is salvation outside the Church.
If there is salvation outside the Church what is the name of the person who has seen someone saved outside the Church?
So if there is no known salvation outside the Church then I am saying that BOD, BOB and I.I are not exceptions to Feeneyite EENS and they never were. The Holy Office 1949 made a factual mistake in the Letter to the Archbishop of Boston relative to Fr. Leonard Feeney(1949).
Then it means that the Council Fathers at Vatican Council II , made a mistake when they accepted this irrational reasoning of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. The Council Fathers made a philosophical mistake. It also means that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not exceptions to Feeneyite EENS and the old ecclesiology of the Church.So we can re-interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS ( Feeneyite) despite the mistake made by the Council Fathers, the Cushingites there.
So Vatican Council II is not 'a development' with reference to EENS.This will be an earthquake theologically.
Since Vatican Council II does not contradict Feeneyite EENS there is no change in our understanding of EENS.EENS today is like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.
With BOD, BOB and I.I being implicit and not explicit,invisible and not visible,the Catechisms of Trent, Pius X and the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) do not contradict Feeneyite EENS.They are not a rupture with EENS as it was known to the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.
So there is no change in the old ecclesiology of the Church, before and after Vatican Council II.
This is what I have been repeating again and again over the last six or seven years and Catholics are beginning to notice.
"What if every one else is wrong and he is correct? Mama Mia!?"
-Lionel Andrades

Repost : THE NARROW GATE

SEPTEMBER 3, 2013

THE NARROW GATE

Sunday before last, in the homily at Holy Mass the priest said Jesus referred to only one gate, the narrow gate, and not to many gates leading to the Kingsom of God, to Heaven.If there were many paths leading to Heaven Jesus would not refer to only one.
 
The priest said that elsewhere in the Gospel Jesus has said that the way to Hell is wide and most people take it- so enter through the narrow gate.
I agreed with him. For me, this priest was saying at Mass in English that the narrow gate is Catholic Faith with the baptism of water(AG 7,CCC 846, Dominus Iesus 20 etc). Catholic faith includes the moral and faith teachings , the Sacraments, the interpretation of the Bible, communion with the present pope, the popes , Church Councils, and saints of the past, communion with those in Heaven and Purgatory.In agreement with Sacred Tradition. Through Catholic Faith we learn to enter the narrow gate and avoid the wide one which leads to eternal death.-Lionel Andrades
 
 

Repost : Enter through the narrow gate : The Catholic Church is the narrow gate

AUGUST 20, 2016


Enter through the narrow gate : The Catholic Church is the narrow gate

He said : To what is the kingdom of God like, and whereunto shall I resemble it? It is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took and cast into his garden, and it grew and became a great tree, and the birds of the air lodged in the branches thereof.And again he said: Whereunto shall I esteem the kingdom of God to be like?
 It is like to leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened. And he went through the cities and towns teaching, and making his journey to Jerusalem.  And a certain man said to him: Lord, are they few that are saved? But he said to them:  Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I say to you, shall seek to enter, and shall not be able. -Luke 13:18-23 (Douay-Rheims Bible)
The Gospel Reading tomorrow says enter through the narrow gate and many shall seek to enter and shall not be able.
Similarly Matthew 7:13 says 'Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat. How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it! '
The narrow gate is the Church, the Catholic Church, the only Church that Jesus founded. It is the Mystical Body of Jesus(1 Cor 12:12-31; Col 1:18; 2:18-20; Eph. 1:22-23; 3:19; 4:13). There was only one Church at the time of Jesus. There were no Protestant communities .There was no schism which created the Orthodox Church.
For salvation from Hell all need to enter the Catholic Church, said Jesus.This was the narrow gate outside of which there is no salvation. There is no salvation without Jesus in the Catholic Church.
The Bible passage which precedes tomorrows Gospel Reading also refers to the importance of the Catholic Church for salvtion.
He said therefore: To what is the kingdom of God like, and whereunto shall I resemble it? It is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took and cast into his garden, and it grew and became a great tree, and the birds of the air lodged in the branches thereof.And again he said: Whereunto shall I esteem the kingdom of God to be like?
 It is like to leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.-Luke 13:18-19
The Kingdom of God cannot be separated from the Church says the Declaration Dominus Iesus, of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.Jesus cannot be separated from the Church.In Acts 9:4 Jesus identifies himself with the Catholic Church.
'And falling on the ground, he heard a voice saying to him: Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?  Who said: Who art thou, Lord? And he: I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. It is hard for thee to kick against the goad.'Acts 9:4
The Catholic Church is compared to the man who finds a treasure in a field and sells everything to have it. It is the pearl of great price.
The kingdom of heaven is like unto a treasure hidden in a field. Which a man having found, hid it, and for joy thereof goeth, and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.  Again the kingdom of heaven is like to a merchant seeking good pearls.-Matthew 13:44
The Catholic Church, is the pearl of great price, it is the treasure that the man finds in the field and sells all to have it, it is the mustard seed and the great tree,it is the leaven and it is the narrow gate, through which all must enter to find salvation.Most people do not take it and so go to the fires of Hell.They choose the wide road.
-Lionel Andrades

The gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those who enter through it are many-Jesus. (Gospel Reading today)

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Gospel for today

MT 7:6, 12-14

Jesus said to his disciples:
"Do not give what is holy to dogs, or throw your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them underfoot, and turn and tear you to pieces.

"Do to others whatever you would have them do to you.
This is the Law and the Prophets.

"Enter through the narrow gate;
for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction,
and those who enter through it are many.
How narrow the gate and constricted the road that leads to life.
And those who find it are few."

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SATURDAY, AUGUST 20, 2016

Enter through the narrow gate : The Catholic
Church is the narrow gate
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/the-gospel-reading-
tomorrow-says-enter.html
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AUGUST 22, 2016
Entrate per la porta stretta: La Chiesa
 cattolica è la porta stretta
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2016/08/entrate-per-l
a-porta-stretta-la-chiesa.html
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JULY 7, 2017

Il Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica,
 Concilio Vaticano II,dogma extra 
ecclesiam nulla salus indicano che 
tuttu ebrei e musalmani sono sul 
via ad inferno

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/07/il-catechismo

-della-chiesa-cattolica.html



Repost : SSPX begin negotiations with Abp. Guido Pozzo : ask if Vatican Council II can be interpreted with the Lionel Andrades model

FEBRUARY 24, 2018

SSPX begin negotiations with Abp. Guido Pozzo : ask if Vatican Council II can be interpreted with the Lionel Andrades model.

The Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) should re-begin negotiations with Archbishop Guido Pozzo,Secretary of Ecclesia Dei,Vatican and ask him if the SSPX can accept Vatican Council II as interpreted by Lionel Andrades on the blogEucharist and Mission(Lionel's Blog).
Tell Archbishop Guido Pozzo that Lionel's interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) is the same as that of the SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012.
Howevever he considers Archbishop Guido Pozzo in heresy and in schism with the past popes and  Magisterium.


Pope Benedict confirmed this in March 2016(Avvenire).He said that EENS today, for him, was not the same as it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.For Lionel, EENS is the same as in the past since he re-interprets Vatican Council II differently.There are no exceptions mentioned in the Council to EENS for him, since LG 16, LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc all refer to hypothetical cases, invisible people in the present times(2018).For Archbishop Pozzo they are not invisible but known people in the present times saved outside the Catholic Church.It's with this irrationality that he and Pope Benedict interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition and in particular the dogma EENS.
So Archbishop Guido Pozzo is using the same irrational premise approved by Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj to interpret EENS and Vatican Council II.

Like  Pope Benedict, he creates a rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.So Pope Benedict and Archbishop  Pozzo will not affirm Feeneyite EENS or the Syllabus of Errors. Since Vatican Council II with the premise is a development for them. Also the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), interpreted with the irrational premise, is a rupture with EENS for them. For Lionel Andrades BOD, BOB and I.I are not a rupture with Feeneyite EENS since he does not use the irrational premise.Invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I cannot be visible exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. The Holy Office 1949 and the Archbishop of Boston were wrong in the Fr. Leonard Feeney case. It was the courageous priest from Boston who was teaching orthodox Catholic doctrine, for Lionel.
The SSPX could begin talks with Archbishop Guido Pozzo and ask him if he could interpret Vatican Council II like Lionel Andrades .The conclusion would be in harmony with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, the Nicene Creed and the past Catechisms including the present Catechism of the Catholic Church.The ecclesiology of the Church before and after Vatican Council II will be the same.
So the SSPX would be meeting Archbishop Pozzo's demand to accept Vatican Council II.
The SSPX could also ask Rome to come back to the faith as Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre wanted them to do so.Archbishop Pozzo and the popes must  also interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS as it as known to the Magisterium of the 16th century. 

They can use Lionel's model to go back to the old theology and traditional doctrines of the Church in harmony with Vatican Council II( premise-free).
So with Vatican Council II as a condition for reconciliation being met, the SSPX can be granted canonical recognition and a personal prelature.
Also the Conference of Catholic Bishops in Europe and the USA could be asked to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the Nicene Creed, Athanasius Creed,EENS, Syllabus of Errors and the Catechisms including the Council of Trent and that of Pope Pius X.They must choose the hermeneutic of continuity and not rupture.
This should be expected of all Catholics.This is a rational, traditional and non heretical interpretation. There is no schism with the past popes and Church Councils on EENS etc.-Lionel Andrades




FEBRUARY 24, 2018




Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j is in schism error needs to be recanted : Catholics have to affirm heresy and schism of the present Magisterium in the name of Vatican Council II interpreted with a false premise to elicit a non traditional and heretical conclusion which is a break with the past Magisterium of the Church.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/sspx-begin-negotiations-with-abp-guido.html



FEBRUARY 23, 2018





Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j in schism : enforcing it on the whole Church
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-in-schism.html




FEBRUARY 24, 2018




The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF),Vatican has no objections if all Catholic religious communities affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise : information exclusively on Lionel's Blog


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/the-congregation-for-doctrine-of.html




Tell Card.Marx that you affirm Vatican Council II according to Lionel Andrades.There is no known salvation outside the Church. So Protestants cannot receieve the Eucharist (Graphics)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/tell-cardmarx-that-you-affirm-vatican.html






JULY 4, 2017


CDF asks SSPX to interpret Vatican Council II with irrational Cushingism and reject traditional Feeneyismhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/cdf-wants-sspx-to-interpret-vatican.html



MAY 18, 2017


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No canonical status for the SSPX this year.Reconciliation talks have failed.Doctrine divides for a corrupt magisterium

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/no-canonical-status-for-sspx-this.html

MAY 12, 2017

Ecclesia Dei ask the Bishops Conferences to affirm Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) 

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/05/ecclesia-dei-ask-bishops-conferences-to.html
 


NOVEMBER 14, 2017

Once they correct this error the SSPX could tell Archbishop Guido Pozzo that they affirm Vatican Council II( premise free).
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/once-they-correct-this-error-sspx-could.html


OCTOBER 30, 2017

Double- speak continues with Ecclesia Dei and the CDF : Vatican Council II is not the real issue for the SSPX reconciliation
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/double-speak-continues-with-ecclesia.html


 OCTOBER 13, 2017

SSPX has to show Abp.Pozzo that 'the dogma of the faith' has not been lost : it's in harmony with Vatican Council II (premise-free)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-has-to-show-abppozzo-that-dogma-of.html

OCTOBER 12, 2017

Five months and no concrete dialogue between the SSPX and Ecclesia Dei on Vatican Council II (premise-free) and EENS(premise-free)
  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/five-months-and-no-dialogue-between.html

OCTOBER 4, 2017

SSPX must continue to reject Vatican Council II (Cushingite) : do not compromise like Card. Raymond Burke, Michael Voris and others  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/sspx-must-continue-to-reject-vatican.html 

AUGUST 29, 2017
SSPX can correct the Wikipedia error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II related to canonical status for them http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/sspxcan-correct-wikipedia-error-related.html




Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J uses the false premise : here is the proof!






Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is still in heresy :visible to us baptism of desire and invincible ignorance contradicts a defined dogma http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-secretary-of.html

THERE IS AMBIGUITY IN VATICAN COUNCIL II ONLY WITH THE FALSE PREMISE: THE COUNCIL IS TRADITIONAL OTHERWISE http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/there-is-ambiguity-in-vatican-council.html

Archbishop Di Noia's the Church is always right is becoming controversial: How can the Holy Spirit say that we can see the deceased saved?  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-di-noias-church-is-always.html#links
Tuesday, April 10, 2012
HOLY FATHER ASSUMES THOSE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ARE KNOWN TO US: CONTRADICTS VATICAN COUNCIL I AND II
IF THE CDF DOES NOTHING WHOM CAN WE APPEAL TO, POPE FRANCIS ?: PUBLIC ERRORS BY VATICAN OFFICIALS INCLUDING THE CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/05/if-cdf-does-nothing-whom-can-we-appeal.html

January 13, 2013

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