Thursday, November 7, 2013


Medugorje is being opposed by traditionalists and misunderstood by liberals because of a message received by Vicka, one of the visionaries, who said that most people go to Heaven and all people are loved by Our Lady.
For them Our Lady at Medugorje is contradicting the traditional teaching on salvation, other religions and Christian communities.
I think Our Lady at Medugorje is 'in step with the Church', she is in in step with the Magisterium which assumes there are known exceptions to the traditional teaching on salvation and other religions. The Vatican Curia is using a false premise in the interpretation of magisterial texts including the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 , Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
The traditionalists themself, the whole spectrum, are making the same error as the magisterium with the use of the irrational premise of being able to see the dead who are supposedly known exceptions to the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.So for them Vatican Council II is a break with the past.
The  Franciscan Spiritual Directors of the visionaries are politically  correct with the magisterium. A Medugorje spokesman has said that there was no message to the seer Marija, asking her to read The Poem of the Man God by Maria Valtorta, to learn of the infancy of the Blessed Mother.
So Medugorje is now politically correct and  doctrinally secure according to the Franciscans at Medugorje, for an approval by Pope Francis, who also interprets the Council with the false premise.
If over the last 30 years  Our Lady did affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus it would not have been made public. If it was made public Cardinal Schonborn would not invite the Medugorje visionaries to Austria.Nor would Cardinal Bergoglio have welcomed them in Buenos Aires.Since it would be contrary to Jesuit theology which he was teaching there.
The apparitions would have been ended by the Vatican and the seers would have been considered traditionalists etc who reject Vatican Council II (Cushingism version).
It would have been the end of Our Lady's magnificent pastoral work in Medugorje with the emphasis on love and peace, the call for prayers and the knowledge of Hell and souls being lost for all eternity.
-Lionel Andrades


Opus Dei what does the Catholic Church teach?

I have been asking Mons. Angel Rodriguez Luno and Fr. Francesco Giordano to at least say that the Catholic Church teaches that there are no known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.If this is what the Magisterium teaches based on Church- texts and rationality, then they should admit it. They will not comment either way.

Prof.Angel Rodríguez Luno was the Head of the Department of Dogmatic Theology at the University of the Holy Cross, Rome.Does Catholic dogma state that all need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation?Does dogma mention any exceptions? Do we know of any exceptions?

What  is the teaching of the Catholic Church ? As priests, tells us.

Brian Finnerty writes that 'we (Opus Dei) simply teach what the Catholic Church teaches'.Could Opus Dei clarify if  this is the teaching of the Catholic Church i.e there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 Opus Dei - Bishop Javier Echevarría
For the Opus Dei prelate this is the teaching of the Catholic Church ? Does he personally know exceptions in 2013 ? For him, do magisterial documents say there are exceptions? Bishop Javier Echevarría, is the  Prelate of Opus Dei and Grand Chancellor of the Pontifical University of the Holy Cross.
A Rector of Opus Dei Rector took part in the Vatican-SSPX doctrinal talks. If there are no known exceptions to the dogma, then the Society of St.Pius X(SSPX) has a doctrinal postion on Christian communities, churches and other religions in agreement with Vatican Council II. Their traditional position is in accord with Vatican Council II. There is no ambiguity in the Council. However if there are known exceptions then there would be ambiguity in Vatican Council II.
The issue is,Fr.Francesco Giordano's, Masters Thesis at the University of St.Thomas Aquinas, Rome has been accepted with a factual error.He has been allowed to work for a Doctorate Degree on a similar theme.So the error is permitted.When this error is taught at the Opus Dei university, it becomes a lie. Whatever be the motivation, if the error, is repeated, after all are informed, it is repeating a lie.The Opus Dei university Theology Faculty and the Rector( if he is aware) would be lieing intentionally.They would be misrepresenting the truth.They would not be telling the truth about what the Catholic Church teaches.
They are also being supported in this lie by the Vatican.

According to Mons. Guido Pozzo, Secretary of Ecclesia Dei, Vatican, who oversaw the Vatican-SSPX talks, there are known exceptions to the dogma on salvation, in Vatican Council II.This error was made by him at a conference. It is  referred to in a book by the SSPX's Fr. Jean Marie Gleaze, who himself makes this error. He assumes 'elements of sanctification and truth'( LG 8) etc are known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus.( Click their name links on the side bar fo read the  blog posts with the  details.)

According to Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J, Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican there are known exceptions to the 'rigorist interpretation' of Fr.Leonard Feeney.This is clear in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission.

According to Bishop Charles Moreord O.P who also particpated in the Vatican-SSPX doctrinal talks with Cardinal Ladaria, there are known exceptions to the traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The former Rector of the University of St. Thomas Aquinas, personally overlooked this major error in the theological  thesis for the Masters Degree, given to Fr. Francesco Giordano,on the subject outside the Church there is no salvation.The bishop  was also the Secretary of the ITC and overlooked this error in two theological papers.
Cardinal Ladaria, Bishop Morerod and Mons.Pozzo have never responded to these blogposts or my e-mails sent to them over the last few years.

Bishop Morerod has denied the SSPX access to Catholic churches in his diocese for 'doctrinal reasons'!.
-Lionel Andrades