Tuesday, March 9, 2021

Il Credo

Credo - Gen Rosso e Gen Verde

Il Credo non sono più un segno di unità nella Chiesa poiché possono esserci due interpretazioni

 


Qualcuno ha lasciato photo copie del Credo degli Apostoli sul tavolo all'ingresso della chiesa dove oggi sono andato per la Santa Messa in italiano.

Il Credo non sono più un segno di unità nella Chiesa poiché possono esserci due interpretazioni. La linea segnata in rosso è ora controversa.

Credo nello Spirito Santo, la Santa Chiesa Cattolica,la comunione dei santi. -Credo degli Apostoli

La confusione è entrata nella Chiesa durante il caso famoso di p. Leonard Feeney in cui casi sconosciuti del battesimo del desiderio (BOD) e dell'essere salvati nell'ignoranza invincibile (I.I) erano considerati eccezioni oggettive alla 'rigida interpretazione' del dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Quindi la Nuova Teologia diceva che c'è salvezza fuori dalla Chiesa; salvezza conosciuta, mentre il passato Magistero avrebbe affermato nei secoli, che fuori dalla Chiesa non c'è salvezza.

Quindi per me, lo Spirito Santo insegna alla Chiesa Cattolica oggi (Ad Gentes 7, Catechismo della Chiesa Cattolica 846 ecc.) che al di fuori della Chiesa Cattolica c'è salvezza e tutti devono accettare Gesù e i suoi insegnamenti nella Chiesa Cattolica, per evitare l'inferno e va in Paradiso.

Mentre altri Cattolici nella Chiesa accetto il nuovo insegnamento sul presunte eccezioni che lo Spirito Santo si suppone insegna alla Chiesa oggi, che, fuori dalla Chiesa c'è salvezza e non tutti hanno bisogno di essere membri della Chiesa, per andare in Paradiso ed evitare l'Inferno.

Per me essere in comunione con i santi significa affermare la passata interpretazione del battesimo del desiderio e dell'ignoranza invincibile che era razionale. Non contraddiceva la rigida interpretazione di EENS.

Coloro che recitano il Credo degli Apostoli nella chiesa oggi sono in una rottura teologicamente e dottrinalmente con gli Apostoli, i Padri della Chiesa, i santi del Medioevo e i santi prima degli anni '40 come San Massimiliano Kolbe. Lui sosteneva la rigida interpretazione di EENS e affermò anche il Credo di Atanasio.

La maggior parte dei Cattolici ci sono in una rottura con i santi, poiché oggi interpretano BOD e I.I come eccezioni pratiche a EENS. I Cattolici devono scegliere di credere in BOD e I.I o EENS. Quindi contraddicono i santi del passato.

Posso accettare sia BOD e I.I ed EENS e non devo scegliere. BOD e I.I sono casi invisibili per me nel 2021, ma il resto della Chiesa implica che siano visibili. Quindi diventano eccezioni pratiche per Feeneyite EENS per loro.

Per me la Lettera del Sant'Uffizio del 1949 (LOHO) ha commesso un errore oggettivo che è stato trascurato al Concilio Vaticano II. Gli due papi oggi e anche molti tradizionalisti, accettano il LOHO con l'errore e non lo correggono.

Il Credo di Nicea afferma la necessità del battesimo dell'acqua per il perdono dei peccati e il Credo di Atanasio afferma che al di fuori della Chiesa non c'è salvezza.-Lionel Andrades


Credo Apostolico Io credo in Dio, Padre onnipotente, Creatore del cielo e della terra. E in Gesù Cristo, suo unico Figlio, nostro Signore, il quale fu concepito di Spirito Santo, nacque da Maria Vergine, patì sotto Ponzio Pilato, fu crocifisso, morì e fu sepolto; discese agli inferi; il terzo giorno risuscitò da morte; salì al cielo, siede alla destra di Dio Padre onnipotente: di là verrà a giudicare i vivi e i morti. Credo nello Spirito Santo, la santa Chiesa cattolica, la comunione dei santi, la remissione dei peccati, la risurrezione della carne, la vita eterna.- Credo degli Apostoli

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MARCH 9, 2021



The Creeds are no more a sign of unity in the Catholic Church since there can be two interpretations.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/03/the-creeds-are-no-more-sign-of-unity-in.html





Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj justifies the institutional change, for having women as altar servers, by citing Vatican Council II. He means Vatican Council II in principle was a rupture with Tradition : Discerning Catholics can affirm the strict interpretation of EENS and also a Vatican Council II interpreted rationally

 


Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj justifies the institutional change, for having women as altar servers, by citing Vatican Council II. He means Vatican Council II in principle was a rupture with Tradition. This is accepted by the liberals and conservatives.There is no denial from even the traditionalists.

So if the Council can break with Tradition, is the false reasoning of Cardinal Ladaria, then why cannot the Eucharist be given at Holy Mass to the divorced and remarried, or women be altar servers or priests ?

No one corrects him in public.

No one tells him that he interprets Vatican Council II irrationally, with a  fake premise and so only then is the Council a rupture with EENS and the Athanasius Creed. 

Since he uses the false premise he does not affirm EENS and the Athanasius Creed, as the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican.Similarly these Magisterial documents are not accepted by Pope Benedict, Cardinal Gerhard Muller, Cardinal Malcolm Ranjit etc.

Discerning Catholics can affirm the strict interpretation of EENS and also a Vatican Council II interpreted rationally.


Pope Francis' moto proprio Spiritus Domini cannot be rationalized with Vatican Council II. The Council is traditional and in harmony with the Jesuit missionaries in the 16th century. -Lionel Andrades


http://www.internationalunionsuperiorsgeneral.org/spiritus-domini-uisg-declation/

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2021-01/pope-francis-opens-ministries-lector-acolyte-women.html

Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano says that Vatican Council II should be done away with.He is correct in a way since the Council is based upon an objective error. There is an empirical error; an error in observation made by the Council Fathers, and this cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit. This error runs through the Council-text like a theme. It is not magisterial. However the nature of the error is such that when it is detected, it can be avoided and this does not prevent the Council from having the hermeneutic of continuity with extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the rest of Tradition. So for me the Council should not be rejected but simply re-interpreted rationally

 Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano says that Vatican Council II should be done away with.He is correct in a way since the Council is based upon an objective error. There is an empirical error; an error in observation made by the Council Fathers, and this cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit. This error runs through the Council-text like a theme. It is not magisterial.

However the nature of the error is such that when it is detected, it can be avoided and this does not prevent the Council from having the hermeneutic of continuity with extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the rest of Tradition.

So for me the Council should not be rejected but simply re-interpreted rationally. - Lionel Andrades

For me the baptism of desire(BOD) is compatible with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). I can accept both of them without any contradiction.For the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX), the BOD is an exception to Feeneyite EENS. The SSPX bishops and priests have to accept either one or the other

 For me the baptism of desire(BOD) is compatible with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). I can accept both of them without any contradiction.For the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX), the BOD is an exception to Feeneyite EENS. The SSPX bishops and priests have to accept either one or the other.

For me, being saved in invincible ignorance, through no fault of the person, is compatible with Feeneyite EENS.I can accept both of them.It is not either-or for me.For Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria in two papers of the International Theological Commission, Vatican, Lumen Gentium 16( invincible ignorance) is an exception to Feeneyite EENS. So they reject the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Unknown cases are projected as objective and practical exceptions to EENS. -Lionel Andrades

I appreciate Prof. Roberto dei Mattei's great contribution for Jesus and the Catholic Church but right now, he is on the side of the liberals, when he interprets Vatican Council II with a fake premise, like the Lefebvrists, and does not admit it in public.

I appreciate Prof. Roberto dei Mattei's great contribution for Jesus and the Catholic Church but right now, he is on the side of the liberals, when he interprets Vatican Council II with a fake premise, like the Lefebvrists, and does not admit it in public. On this point he is not opposing the Left.
He's possibly waiting for Pope Francis to announce the official change, but until that time; until Pope Francis makes the correction , he will interpret Magisterial documents with a fake premise ?!  - Lionel Andrades

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 MARCH 9, 2021

Now for the followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, it is Tradition ( Catechism of Pope Pius X-reference to invincible ignorance ) contradicting Tradition( Athanasius Creed/ Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 on EENS etc)

 The Lefebvrists are confused on Vatican Council II and support the liberals who also use the same false premise. When the Lefebvrists admit that the Council can be interpreted with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc  being only hypothetical cases and not objective people in 2021, the hermeneutic of rupture with EENS and the Athanasius Creed  ends.



TRADITION CONTRADICTING TRADITION

Now for the followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre,  it is Tradition( Catechism of Pope Pius X-reference to invincible ignorance ) contradicting Tradition( Athanasius Creed/ Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 on EENS etc).They wrongly believe that the doctrinal crisis in the Church originates in the liturgy, the Novus Ordo Mass.-Lionel Andrades

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MARCH 9, 2021

Lefebvrism and liberalism both support the New Theology and the fake premise. Lefebvrists are traditionalists but on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) they are modernists like the liberals

 Lefebvrism and liberalism both support the New Theology and the fake premise. Lefebvrists are traditionalists  but on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) they are modernists like the liberals.


Both groups project unknown cases of the baptism  of desire and invincible ignorance as being known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.In principle they promote a New Theology which states outside the Catholic Church there is salvation. For them there are known cases of non Catholics saved without faith and the baptism of water, in the Catholic Church. - Lionel Andrades




https://fsspx.news/en/content/38774

https://aleteia.org/2018/05/20/an-unpublished-and-unvarnished-dialogue-between-paul-vi-and-archbishop-lefebvre-has-been-released/


Now for the followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, it is Tradition ( Catechism of Pope Pius X-reference to invincible ignorance ) contradicting Tradition( Athanasius Creed/ Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 on EENS etc)

 The Lefebvrists are confused on Vatican Council II and support the liberals who also use the same false premise. When the Lefebvrists admit that the Council can be interpreted with LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc  being only hypothetical cases and not objective people in 2021, the hermeneutic of rupture with EENS and the Athanasius Creed  ends.



TRADITION CONTRADICTING TRADITION

Now for the followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre,  it is Tradition( Catechism of Pope Pius X-reference to invincible ignorance ) contradicting Tradition( Athanasius Creed/ Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 on EENS etc).They wrongly believe that the doctrinal crisis in the Church originates in the liturgy, the Novus Ordo Mass.-Lionel Andrades

Lefebvrism and liberalism both support the New Theology and the fake premise. Lefebvrists are traditionalists but on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) they are modernists like the liberals

 Lefebvrism and liberalism both support the New Theology and the fake premise. Lefebvrists are traditionalists  but on extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) they are modernists like the liberals.


Both groups project unknown cases of the baptism  of desire and invincible ignorance as being known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.In principle they promote a New Theology which states outside the Catholic Church there is salvation. For them there are known cases of non Catholics saved without faith and the baptism of water, in the Catholic Church. - Lionel Andrades




https://fsspx.news/en/content/38774

https://aleteia.org/2018/05/20/an-unpublished-and-unvarnished-dialogue-between-paul-vi-and-archbishop-lefebvre-has-been-released/

Bishop Robert Barron and Massimo Faggioli need to clarify that there is a Vatican Council II interpreted with and without the false premise. The Vatican Council II which some traditionalists want to scrap is the one interpreted with the false premise

 


Bishop Robert Barron and Massimo Faggioli need to clarify that there is a Vatican Council II interpreted with and without the false premise. The Vatican Council II which some traditionalists want to scrap is the one interpreted with the false premise.

There can also be a Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise. This is the Vatican Council II which they both do not accept. In reality, they do not support it.

For me Bishop Baron and Massimo Faggioli, spokesmen for the Left, have rejected Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally. -Lionel Andrades

For me Pope Francis has rejected Vatican Council II since he does not interpret the Council without the false premise

For me Pope Francis has rejected Vatican Council II since he does not interpret the  Council without the false premise. - Lionel Andrades

Queen of Roses: Marian Apparitions in Heroldsbach, Germany Paperback – May 21, 2020

 


https://www.amazon.com/Queen-Roses-Apparitions-Heroldsbach-Germany/dp/1716908205




Reviewed in the United States on September 29, 2020


Our Lady's Apparitions in Germany : Heroldsbach, Mother of God

 

The Alleged Heroldsbach Messages

Heroldsbach, Germany  Rough translation/editing


Heroldsbach (Germany) 1949 | MaryPages

Within a period of about 3 years from the 09.10.1949 (Feast of the Rosary) to the 31.10.1952  essentially manifestations of the Virgin Mary as “Queen of Roses” occur, but also of Jesus,  and of saints, martyrs and angels [3]. Seers initially were seven young girls (Kuni Schleicher,  Grete Gügel, Erika Müller, Marie Heimann, Betty Büttner, Antonia Saam, Irma Mehl). Later,  also up to 300 adults had apparitions. The events lasted intermittently over the whole period.  In parallel the flow of pilgrims strongly increased; one day end of 1949 about 60,000 visitors  were counted. However, the phenomena are still not recognized by the church. Today  Heroldsbach is a church-recognized centre of prayer for the veneration of the Mother of God.  The center of prayer has a strong spiritual program. Special events within the month are the  Sacred Heart Friday (1st Friday of the month), the subsequent Heart-Mary-Atonement  Saturday and the two days lasting Fatima day (12th and 13th of the month).  [see also “Mary Pages”]

The apparitions  

The above four children have been gathering colorful leaves in the autumn forest. Suddenly  they looked up through a birch grove a character, about ½ meter high: J S H (the Hebrew J  for JEHOVAH, the Greek H for Hyos (Son) and the romanesque S for SPIRITO SANTO,  higher-placed in the centre of three letters) [3] [7] [5].  

After a short time a woman in white (like a nun) appeared in the same place and the children believe, they recognized the Virgin Mary. She appeared like transparent. Four days later, the  girls are back on the hill and are confronted by the same phenomenon. They ask: What is  your wish? And they got the answer:  

People should be praying intensely.”  

Then they have been blessed by Mary, and the appearance is gone. On 31.10.1949 reverent  Walz let the children ask: Dear Mother of God, have you been taken into heaven with your  body? Answer:  

“Yes, but I remained the little maid.”  

On 08.12.1949 around 8000 people were present. The pastor of Heroldsbach, John Gailer,  reports that he has held a procession. When arriving at the birch forest, where he held a  prayer service, suddenly restlessness came up. Then the people cried: “Reverent, stop and  see what’s there!”  

“The sun came up to us and crackled tremendously. Inside, I saw a 20 centimeter wide  wreath of roses. Antonie Saam saw the Madonna with child inside the sun. We were five  clergymen up on the hill. As long as I live I will testify to that. The sun has shone ½ to ¾  hour. It came closer and went back again. Up to about 4 meters the sun approached. It was  seen within a 45 km radius.”  

When the children asked the Mother of God (formulated by the clergyman J.B. Walz),  whether this was a sign of authenticity, the answer was:  

I did that, because there are so many unbelievers, that they may believe it too.”  

More than 4,000 pilgrims had gathered on 25.12.1949 at 6 p.m. at the apparition site. Mary  first appeared with the Child above the birch trees as usual, and said: 

Heroldsbach, Germany Marian Shrines  

“The people should do more penance and pray intensely. During the Christmas season the  people shall honour especially the Holy Family, pray the rosary every day, accompanied by a  devotion to the Heart of Mary.”  

In a brochure published by the Episcopal Ordinariate it is stated regarding the apparitions: “If  all that was true, Heroldsbach would be a place of grace, which surpasses all shrines in the  world with respect to the favour of heaven.”  

Spring 1950: Time and again, Mary reaches her hands to the children, so that they not only  can see and hear but also can feel her. On 09.02.1950 they got the permission to catch a  glimpse of heaven and see the Holy Trinity. The children say about it: The most beautiful  thing we’ve seen in life, we would all have preferred to go immediately to heaven.  

May 1959: An adult seer had a vision of a large spider web that ran through the whole  universe. In its center sat a metal blinking spider. The woman heard a voice: ‘This web must  not be touched, when it is touched, it will tear’. “As soon as the spider began to move, I heard  a terrible roar, it created fissures in the earth, where entire houses sank. I heard great  lamentations of the people who were swallowed by the raging earth. There were so many  people laid dead on the streets, that one laid them on horse-drawn carriages and led them to  the side. We had no more cars and airplanes, also any artificial light. I saw the sea in its  swell exceeding houses and transgressing and many towns and villages were flooded. The  dishes were mostly poisoned, but the people who ate it died from severe abdominal cramps.  We had only a very little amount of healthy food.”  

A selection from the many apparitions by autumn 1950:  

Mary: “The people have not done what I have asked. They should repent and have not done  it. One is just who can stop it, this is the Savior, Jesus Christ. He will avert the disaster, when  the majority of believers actually repents and promises improvement. There will come a great  famine, and misfortune. Bring candles and matches with you tomorrow, I will hallow them.”  

In several apparitions Mary in part weeps bitterly. When they asked about the reason, Mary  keeps silent.  

On 26.09.1950 she teaches a prayer:  

O Mary, let us be under your coat.  

It is the house, where we can not perish.”  

09.10.1950, the first anniversary of the apparitions:  

Mary appears and says: “Dear children, pray, pray, pray!”  

During the night to 01.11.1950, the date of the proclamation of the dogma assumption of  Mary into heaven with body and seoul, Mary appears with a black rosary and about 300  adults can see her.  

Mary appears on 13.03.1951 along with many saints. A large crowd had gathered with the  little seers on the mountain. Then Mary appeared with the Infant Jesus and subsequently  many saints appearing here and there in the meadow and being noticed and saluted by the  children. First, a vision of the Holy Trinity shows above the birch forest. The saints greeted  the children and the reverent with a handshake or a blessing. Then St. Aloysius, St.  Stanislaus Kostka, St. Agnes, the little St. Theresa and Maria Goretti appeared. When the  children once asked for the meaning of the handshake and the appearance of exactly these  saints, they hear the answer: 

Heroldsbach, Germany Marian Shrines  

“In order that your hands not act unchaste. You should always be looking in the eyes of  Infant Jesus and the Virgin Mary and the saints, so that you may have no joy in unchaste  seeing. You shall never give accommodation to the body and its senses because once the  court comes, and then everything will be revealed, the good and evil. Heaven has settled  upon earth here, but it will close soon.”  

On 06.05.1951, Mary appears in her big blue coat and called on the present people to close  ranks, so that all can fit underneath. – On 13.06.1951 the bloody crucified savior appears  and announces that now a terrible fight begins.  

Vision during the wounds Rosary on 10.02.1951: The same woman who had the vision of the  “spider” in May 1950 saw above the birch forest a large cross hovering with immeasurable  abundance of light; the body of the Crucified was covered with wounds. The crown of thorns  pressed on his head, one eyelid was pierced by a thorn. From the wound in his side a light  sheaf broke. The blood flowing from the foot wounds flew in purgatory for the refreshment of  the poor souls. The Saviour complained that the Church authorities do not believe the  apparitions, gave the blessing to the children and said:  

They will only believe it when I carry them off and they will recognize it not till they are in  heaven when they come to me. I can no longer hold back the punishing justice.”  

09.10.1952: Third anniversary of the apparitions. The visionary W.M. had a mystical  experience of a Holy Mass. During thanksgiving, she heard the words:  

Your prayers pierce the heaven. Not for long anymore, then you will be helped. There are  still many dark clouds lying over the world. Pray, pray, pray a lot!”  

The last apparition on 31.10.1952: The children have been prepared for this final day since  the 3rd Anniversary by individual apparitions. Around 3 p.m., many people had gathered.  Mary appeared with the Infant Jesus and said:  

“We have not come to work miracles, but to call for prayer and penance. Continue praying on  the mountain, even if we no longer appear here.”  

Later it was allowed to all who wanted to shake hands with Infant Jesus and also with the  heavenly Mother, who closed the evening with a message:  

“We are pleased about the many pilgrims who have gathered here. Dear children, dear  pilgrims, just a few hours remain now up to the evening. You have to resign yourselves to the  fact that today we appear to you the last time. Trust further in our assistance, we will assist  you in the greatest need.”  

Then twenty angels appeared who came from heaven to meet Mary. Above the birch forest,  St. Theresa of the Child Jesus, St. Bernadette, Maria Goretti and St. Aloysius with Gemma  Galgani, Elizabeth of Thuringia, John Nepomuk and St. Anthony of Padua became visible, as  well as others whose names were not disclosed. Then, more and more angels in white, pink,  red and blue robes came, among them also many music-making. They played “Friends of  God, all together …” Soon, the pilgrims joined the singing, after the children had begun to  hum the melody. At the end St. Theresa said:  

We are pleased with the prayers of the pilgrims that they accomplish here wholeheartedly.  Trust in our help and continue to pray here, even if we do not come any more. We need to  take leave of you, but we’ll see us again in heaven. Say, will you stay loyal to us?  

At 11 p.m. Mary appeared once again to the seers at the hill plateau: She said: 

Heroldsbach, Germany Marian Shrines  

“Victory will be ours! – One has not followed the words of me and my beloved Son, and to  that what we have claimed for the salvation of all. Now it’s too late, that humanity will convert  if anything. It is the last call that we have addressed to them. Pray much for the priests, that  they throw themselves on their knees and pray with you.  

Every child may shake hands with me and my dear Son.”  

Suddenly the appearance disappeared on a light path. During his, suddenly a light blue giant  coat emerged, which Angels had turned over the Mother of God, coating the entire mountain.  The inside of the coat was scarlet, edged externally with a thick brocade braid – a true royal  mantle, the mantle of protection, the Mother of God left onto the world.  

Position of the Church:  

The local pastor John Gailer was very receptive to the phenomena. Already at the beginning  of the apparition period Archbishop of Bamberg Joseph Otto Kolb put in charge an  investigative commission which, however, faced sceptically to the events. Already on 30.  October 1949 a first public call to all believers was made by the Commission to stay away  from Heroldsbach and face the events there with restraint. In early 1950 pilgrimages to  Heroldsbach were prohibited by the Diocese [8].  

On 6. March 1950 reverent Gailer was prohibited to enter the “Apparition Hill”, on 4 August  1951 he was relocated to another parish. On 15. August 1951 in a second decree Rome  forbade the “Heroldsbach cult”. The seer children, their parents and many “mountain-trailers”  were excommunicated in August 1951, because they did not want to sign that they had no  apparitions of the Mother of God. On 4. January 1953 the “Pilgrim Association Heroldsbach  e.V.”was founded. A few months later an eviction was conducted on the hill of the apparition,  during which many religious items and equipment were removed and confiscated [3] [8].  

Starting in 1985, the Pilgrims Association began to build a Church dedicated to St.Mary. In  1997, the last excommunications regarding Heroldsbach were annulated. On 1. May 1998  the Archbishop of Bamberg, Dr. Charles Brown, officially established the “place of prayer  Heroldsbach” as an ecclesiastic foundation, with the consent of the Roman Congregation for  Faith. However, he pointed out again that the “alleged Heroldsbach apparitions” of the years  1949-1952 have been evaluated as non-supernatural by the appropriate ecclesiastical  authorities. Therefore it can not be allowed in public prayers, sermons and lectures to state  the contrary [1].  

The place of prayer was inaugurated on 13.05.1998 by auxiliary Bishop Werner Radspieler  (former parish priest of Heroldsbach during 1969-1972). Radspieler emphasized  reconciliation in his sermon. The “Brothers of Common Life” (Augustinian Canons), headed  by Father Dietrich von Stockhausen, CRVC, were commissioned for the pastoral work in the  place of prayer. On 15. August 1998 the first Pontifical Mass in the place of prayer was  celebrated by Archbishop Charles Brown. In 2003, the new Archbishop of Bamberg Dr.  Ludwig Schick said in his Sermon ‘on the Mount’, that the “place of prayer Heroldsbach shall  become a center of new-evangelization for the Archdiocese of Bamberg, Germany and  beyond.”  

With respect to the 60th Anniversary year, in the period October 2008 until October 2009 a  petition for the resumption of the examination process for the supernatural manifestations of  Heroldsbach has been conducted by the Pilgrim Association Heroldsbach. By this nearly  17,000 signatures have been gathered, which were handed over to the Archbishop of  Bamberg and to the Pope in October 2009 [2]. 

Heroldsbach, Germany Marian Shrines  

Padre Pio in San Giovanni Rotondo once spoke on Heroldsbach as follows: When in 1967 a  German pilgrim group approached his confessional, he exclaimed: “What do you Germans  want else! The Madonna has descended down to you! Heroldsbach is a place of grace” [8].  

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Bibliography  

[1] Official homepage of the shrine: http://www.gebetsstaette-heroldsbach.de/  

[2] Pilgrim association Heroldsbach:  

History and development: http://www.heroldsbach-pilgerverein.de/  

[3] Gottfried Hierzenberger, Otto Nedomanski,  

Erscheinungen und Botschaften der Gottesmutter Maria, Weltbild-Verlag, 2008 (ISBN  978-3-8289-5015-3)  

[4] Blog „Germanica Catholica“:  

http://germania-catholica.blogspot.com/search/label/Heroldsbach  

[5] Homepage “Adorare.de:” http://www.adorare.de/heroldsb2.html  

[6] Homepage „Come, Lord Jesus“:  

http://www.kommherrjesus.de/maria-miterloeserin/sites/index-2.html  

[7] Homepage „Mother of God, Heroldsbach”: http://www.muttergottes-heroldsbach.de/  

[8] Online lexica:  

Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroldsbacher_Marienerscheinungen ;  Kathpedia: http://www.kathpedia.com/index.php?title=Heroldsbach 

https://spiritdailyblog.com/news/the-alleged-heroldsbach-messages

https://www.marypages.com/heroldsbach-(germany).html