Monday, May 31, 2021
How can Catechists and priests in my parish and diocese , not affirm the Creeds in public and continue to interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise ?
In my parish the Catechists do not affirm the Athanasius Creed, change the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creed, re-interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church with a false premise, reject the dogma extra eccclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX ( ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church) and attend Holy Mass.
Those who teach the young children include, dedicated persons , well meaning Italians, like Giorgio and Ennio. But not to affirm the Creed in public is a mortal sin.
Then they teach the same errors to the children and assist at Holy Mass.
Even the priests of the diocese are not affirming the Catholic faith in the diocese of Porta Santa Rufina, Rome where the bishop was Gino Reali.
How can Catechists and priests not affirm the Creeds in public and interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise ?
-Lionel Andrades
MAY 30, 2021
In my parish the priests are not saying that they affirm the Athanasius Creed, that they interpret the Nicene and Apostles Creed rationally,and that they interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechisms, without the false premise. They actually agree with me
In my parish the priests are not saying that they affirm the Athanasius Creed, that they interpret the Nicene and Apostles Creed rationally,and that they interpret Vatican Council II and the Catechisms, without the false premise.
They actually agree with me. They choose heresy, schism and irrationality as if this is some 'New Information' they have to accept to remain priests.
They do not deny what I have written on this blog.
Pope Francis could call this 'going forward'.But we cannot support sin and Satan and go forward. -Lionel Andrades
MAY 30, 2021
In my parish the priests reject the Athanasius Creed, change the Nicene and Apostles Creed and re-interpet Vatican Council II irrationally and do not deny it. They agree with me!
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/05/in-my-parish-priests-reject-athanasius.html
https://www.smnazaret.it/2021/04/prime-comunioni-2021/
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MAY 30, 2021
We cannot change Aristotle's laws of logic or use a false premise to create a New Theology and call it Catholic or Magisterial, in the parish. They must not lie, give false information and then pretend it is Catholic. Pope Benedict needs to apologise for this non Catholic philosophy and theology he promoted all these years
We cannot change Aristotle's laws of logic or use a false premise to create a New Theology and call it Catholic or Magisterial, in the parish.
They must mot lie, give false information and then pretend it is Catholic.
Jesus is also the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
The laws of philosophy and theology in the Catholic Church have been changed at large and officially and so the interpretation of Vatican Council II and Magisterial documents are not Catholic or Magisterial.So Catholics are not obliged to follow them.Pope Benedict needs to apologise for this non Catholic philosophy and theology he promoted all these years, for political or other reasons. - Lionel Andrades
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MAY 30, 2021
In my parish the priests have changed the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creed and rejected the Athanasius Creed and they offer Holy Mass in Italian. They interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to project a non traditional conclusion and then then offer Holy Mass.
In my parish the priests have changed the meaning of the Nicene and Apostles Creed and rejected the Athanasius Creed and they offer Holy Mass in Italian.
They interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise to project a non traditional conclusion and then then offer Holy Mass.
With a fake premise they have made the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the old Catechisms obsolete and they offer Holy Mass.
They do not deny what I have written here.It's official for them. It is all public.
They offer the Sacrament of Confession, for reconciliation with God.They consider it important and necessary- and it is. It's a gift of God, given to the Catholic priest, for all of us,to save us from going to Hell, with mortal sins on our soul.
Most people are going to Hell since they die with mortal sins on their soul.They also die outside the Catholic Church;without Catholic faith and the baptism of water(AG 7).The Gospel at Sunday Mass today tells us that Jesus wanted every one to be baptised with water and to follow his teachings in the Catholic Church.This was the only Church he founded.It is the only Church which existed at the time he was in Jerusalem. -Lionel Andrades
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MAY 29, 2021
Scandal at my parish
I affirm the Athanasius Creed (Whoever desires to be saved should above all hold to the catholic faith.Anyone who does not keep it whole and unbroken will doubtless perish eternally...)in the parish but the priests and many of the parishioners do not do the same.
I live in the parish, Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea.It is a 20-minute drive from Rome's Battistini Metro Station.How can they offer/attend Holy Mass and not affirm the infallible teaching of the Athanasius Creed?
I affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally in the parish but the priests and most of the parishioners do not do so.
For me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are practical exceptions for the Athanasius Creed. In other words, they refer to known non Catholics saved outside the Church. They refer to physically visible people saved without faith and the baptism of water.Invisible and unknown people cannot be exceptions to the Creed. So with this irrationality they make the Athanasius Creed obsolete.
My interpretation of Vatican Council II is rational and traditional.It is not a break with the Creeds.
How can the priests and people offer/attend Holy Mass with an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II etc ?
When the priests and people in the parish do not affirm the Athanasius Creed and Vatican Council II, do they no have to go for the Sacrament of Confession, end the scandal and correct themselves in public ?
For me the baptism of desire(BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases only. I cannot meet or see someone saved as such.It is only God who can know if someone is saved with BOD and I.I. So there are no practical cases of BOD and I.I for me.There are also no practical exceptions to the past Magisterial ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church.
But with visible for them,BOD and I.I, the priests and catechists and others in the parish, reject the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
They change the interpretation of Vatican Council II.Since for them, LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, etc contradict the dogma EENS. There are practical exceptions for them.
So they have rejected the dogma EENS and the Athanasius Creed which says outside the Church there is no salvation.
They have changed the meaning of the Nicene Creed. It is " I believe in three or more known baptisms for the forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church( so EENS is rejected)".
They have changed the meaning of the Apostles Creed. It is " I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church,'which teaches the Catholic Church today that there is known salvation outside the Church and so the Creeds and Catechisms are obsolete in their old understanding".
They have changed the meaning of the First Commandment which now indicates for them that outside the Catholic Church there is known salvation and so there is true worship in non Christian religions.
This is public heresy, scandal and schism and Holy Mass is offered/ attended, by all in the parish.
This scandal has to be rectified in public, before absolution is given in the Confessional. -Lionel Andrades
https://www.smnazaret.it/
MAY 28, 2021
With the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II the great Catholic Tradition does not stop on the eve of Vatican Council II
Peter Kwasniewski writes on the blog 1Peter5
Down to the eve of the Second Vatican Council II ? Why did Peter Kwasniewski have to stop here.
Why? Since he is using the narrative of the progressivists and the Lefebvrists.
Kwasniewski, as he puts it in the article, 'allows the enemy to dictate the terms of the entire debate'. He interprets the Council like the Modernists.
MAY 27, 2021
Questions and Answers about the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II ( Updated )
Questions and Answers about the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II (Updated)
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE LIONEL ANDRADES INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II
What's so special about the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II ?
The FSSP may offer Mass facing the East and give the Eucharist on the tongue, kneeling, but with the false premise, they are in a big rupture with Tradition and Steve Skojec and his family have to live with it
Steve Skojec on his blog 1Peter5 has written about 'crippled religion' and the contradictions and confusion he faces. It must be the same for Peter Kwasniewki. Since in a report to a seminarian, Kwasniewski writes,on 1Peter5 that Catholic Tradition ended on the eve of the Second Vatican Council II.
Saying “No” to Crippled Religion
Sunday, May 30, 2021
I am not saying any thing new and neither am I rejecting Vatican Council II.Michael Sean Winters, John Allen jr and Massimo Faggioli know it and they are remaining silent as if I do exist. Bishop Robert Barron and the Word on Fire apologists are also having a hard time
I am not saying any thing new and neither am I rejecting Vatican Council II.Michael Sean Winters, John Allen jr and Massimo Faggioli know it and they are remaining silent as if I do exist. Bishop Robert Barron and the Word on Fire apologists are also having a hard time. - Lionel Andrades
MAY 18, 2021
Choose Vatican Council II according to Lionel Andrades on the blog Eucharistandmission
MAY 18, 2021
Why should Catholics choose the progressivist and Lefebvrist interpretation of Vatican Council II with a false premise instead of mine without the fake premise ?
MAY 17, 2021
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ? Pope Pius XII and the Holy Office(CDF) made an objective mistake. Pope Paul VI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican, made an objective error.
You are guilty of the error you accuse me of, an inability to admit, in this case, that the Church has declared an unbaptized catechumen in heaven, with St Emerentiana. Your only rebuttal is that the Church could not possibly know if St Emerentiana is in heaven without water baptism( and so we should not posit St.Emerentiana as an exception to EENS, secondly someone in the past is only a hypothetical case today.A possibility saved without the baptism of water in the past, known only to God, cannot be a practical and objective exception to the dogma EENS.Thirdly even if she was saved without the baptism of water as is speculated it does not mean that the possibility is an actual exception to the dogma EENS in the present times(1965-2019) (and thus we should view the object of the Church's public cult for this catechumen saint as merely hypothetical!!),( She is a saint and the cult can continue but please do not say that she is in Heaven without the baptism of water.
You would not know and the Church has not said that any particular person would know and has the gift of seeing people in Heaven, saved without the baptism of water.) and thus your entire apologetic is flawed with the fallacy of petitio principii.
I have also proven to you that you personally do not know of any LG 8, UR 3, GS 22, NA 2 case in the present times ( 1965-2019) saved outside or within the Church.You have agreed with me. I have also proven to you that you are afraid to admit this common place and obvious conclusion in public , since it will....and for whatever other reason.
MONDAY, APRIL 8, 2019
Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct. There is no literal case of the baptism of desire.Not a single case.
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 26, 2019
Why should Brother Andre Marie interpret CCC 846 according to the liberals and heretics and not me ? He is affirming CCC 846 and EENS, CCC 846 and CCC 847-848.He does not have to choose as the CDF Secretaries. Morandi and Di Noia,want him to do.
MONDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2018
The present position of the Church on this issue is irrational, non traditional and heretical. It is schism with the past popes and the Church Councils on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is an official error.
But how can they be visible and known people when they are in Heaven and known only to God?
SEPTEMBER 20, 2018
Fr.Leonard Feeney did not have to reject BOD, BOB and I.I theologically, since there is no theology for him with BOD,BOB and I.I being exceptions. They do not exist.Literally they are not there
SEPTEMBER 19, 2018
Catholics can interpret Vatican Council II with BOD, BOB and I.I Cushingite or Feeneyite http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/catholics-can-interpret-vatican-council.html
SEPTEMBER 17, 2018
Until today the popes and cardinals make a doctrinal error on the issue of salvation http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/until-today-popes-and-cardinals-make.html
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2018
Pope Benedict confirmed this error in public ( Avvenire, March 2016) and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj at the Placuet Deo Press Conference, question and answer session( March 1, 2018). So Fr. Leonard Feeney held the de fide teaching on EENS and BOD, BOB and I.I and those who excommunicated him were teaching heresy.
I can not even imagine how you could possibly defend Father Feeney who at the very LEAST misunderstood the teaching of the Catholic Church on BOB, BOD and II
SEPTEMBER 20, 2018
Fr.Leonard Feeney did not have to reject BOD, BOB and I.I theologically, since there is no theology for him with BOD,BOB and I.I being exceptions. They do not exist.Literally they are not there
SEPTEMBER 19, 2018
Catholics can interpret Vatican Council II with BOD, BOB and I.I Cushingite or Feeneyite http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/catholics-can-interpret-vatican-council.html
SEPTEMBER 17, 2018
Until today the popes and cardinals make a doctrinal error on the issue of salvation http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/until-today-popes-and-cardinals-make.html
Fr.Leonard Feeney did not have to reject BOD, BOB and I.I theologically, since there is no theology for him with BOD,BOB and I.I being exceptions. They do not exist.Literally they are not there.
When Father Feeney said over and over and over again was that there was no such thing as baptism of blood(BOB), baptism of desire (BOD) or invincible ignorance (I.I). He WAS wrong.
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 2018
Until today the popes and cardinals make a doctrinal error on the issue of salvation.
SEPTEMBER 17, 2018
Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct. Invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made a mistakehttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/fr-leonard-feeney-was-correct-invisible.html
SEPTEMBER 15, 2018
Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct. Invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I cannot be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 made a mistake.
I can not even imagine how you could possibly defend Father Feeney who at the very LEAST misunderstood the teaching of the Catholic Church on BOB, BOD and II.
Lionel:
Fr.Leonard Feeney said that there are no cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) relative to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
SEPTEMBER 15, 2018
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2018
If Fr.Leonard Feeney referred to the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance literally, he was not wrong. Literally there are no such cases.
So sorry Lionel, Father Feeney was wrong in what he said about Bob, Bod and II when he denied
their very existence
Lionel:
- Lionel Andrades in five steps (3)
- Lionel Andrades' Catholic beliefs (8)
- Lionel Andrades' description of Feeneyism and Cushingism (6)
- Lionel Andrades' intepretation of Vatican Council II and Extra ecclesiam nulla salus (14)
- Lionel Andrades' interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS (9)
- Lionel Andrades' interpretation of Vatican Council II and EENS : Questions and Answers (9)