Friday, April 8, 2022

In Dijon, France the whole Church can come back to Tradition

 In Dijon and the rest of France the Latin laity, at least, must ask every bishop and priest, to interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise only. Then the whole Church in France comes back to Catholic Tradition, now associated with only the Traditional Latin Mass.  -Lionel Andrades






APRIL 8, 2022

In Chicago all the priests at Holy Mass must affirm the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX since Vatican Council II can only be interpreted rationally.



In Chicago all the priests at Holy Mass must affirm the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX since Vatican Council II can only be interpreted rationally. This is being honest. The laity must not allow them to use a Fake Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and then suggest that the Syllabus of Errors is contradicted by the Council, interpreted irrationally.

The Council should not be a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus or the Athanasius Creed for any priest.

THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE, BAPTISM OF BLOOD AND BEING SAVED ARE ALWAYS HYPOTHETICAL ONLY IN 2022

The baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance can only be interpreted rationally. So they are not explicit, known people in the present times. They are not objective and practical exceptions for Feeneyite EENS.

UNITATIS REDINTIGRATIO REFERS TO ONLY HYPOTHETICAL AND SPECULATIVE CASES IN 2022

Unitatis Redintigratio can only be interpreted as referring to hypothetical cases in 2022. So UR 3, for example, does not contradict the ecumenism of return or the Syllabus of Errors.

LG 8 refers to hypothetical cases of non Catholics saved with elements of sanctification and truth in other religions. These are speculative and theoretical cases. So LG 8 does not contradict the Syllabus of Errors’ teaching on outside the Church there is no salvation.

So all the priests in Chicago, especially those who offer the Novus Ordo Mass in English must affirm the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition and interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise.  -Lionel Andrades




APRIL 6, 2022

The laity in Chicago must take back the Church



In Illinois, Chicago they have a group of laity seen in the video who must call upon the priests to give them a Vatican Council II which is rational. Then at Holy Mass in English and Latin the priests have to preach in support of the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the past ecumenism of return to the Church, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) with no exceptions in 2022, the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24Q, 27Q) and the need to have Jesus at the centre of all politics (Quas Primas). The laity in Chicago now has the ball in their court. They can bring unity in theology and doctrines, back to the Church. The priests can no more carry liberalism and theological division on their backs, by using the Fake Premise. The can  no more interpret the baptism of desire(LG 14) and invincible ignorance(LG 16) irrationally and then say that there are known to them non Catholics, saved outside the Church, without the Catholic faith and the baptism of water. This is false since there are no such persons in 1965-2022.So BOD and I.I do not contradict the past strict interpretation of the dogma EENS, affirmed by three Church Councils, in the extra-ordinary Magisterium.

When the priests know this they have to change, since the laity will not more affirm EENS, with BOD and I.I interpreted with the False Premise. They will no more interpret Vatican Council II, with LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, interpreted with the Fake Premise. This ruse creates false exceptions for EENS and the rest of Tradition.

So Vatican Council II (Rational) at any Mass and Rite and language, would be coherent with the ecclesiocentric ecclesiology of the past Magisterium. There would not be a break with the theology of the Roman Missal (1580).

The laity must insist that a Catholic priest in Chicago no more support an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with the False Premise. This should not be allowed.

In Chicago they have an organized group of laity who want the Latin Mass, which has been banned by Cardinal Cupich for the Easter Triduum.

The cardinal interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and fans the fake theological liberalism in the Church. So there is division. There are liberals created who oppose conservatives who follow Tradition. The Bible is re-interpreted. The result is public heresy and schism which are mortal sins of faith.

The laity should not allow the False Premise to be used by the cardinals, bishops and priests in Chicago.


-Lionel Andrades





 APRIL 5, 2022

Chicago Catholics did not hold a Press Conference asking Cardinal Cupich to interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the Roman Missal

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/04/chicago-catholics-did-not-hold-press.html



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 WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II : YOURS AND MINE


Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial. Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

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The U.S and German bishops continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the common irrationality and their governments do not ask them to correct their error.The bishops are handing out false information to receive financial privileges.

 LIONEL'S BLOG

FRIDAY, APRIL 8, 2022

Latin Mass Society, Una Voce must confirm that they interpret Vatican Council II rationally and in harmony with Tradition.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/04/latin-mass-society-una-voce-must.html

 MARCH 15, 2022

The U.S and German bishops continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the common irrationality and their governments do not ask them to correct their error.The bishops are handing out false information to receive financial privileges.

 

The U.S bishops are given a tax- donation exemption status since they deceptively, like the German bishops interpret Vatican Council II irrationally to produce a rupture with Catholic Tradition. 

SOCIETY OF ST. PIUS X(SSPX)

Even organizations in Germany and the USA , like the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) are given special privileges, since they use the same False Premise , to create a break with Tradition. They are liberals on Vatican Council II since they do not choose the Rational Premise to interpret the Council in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X and the past ecclesiocentrism of the Church. Instead they choose the Christocentrism of the liberals, which is compatible with the New Ecumenism, which will take the Church into the New World Order.They reject the past Ecclesiocentrism by using the False Premise.

The U.S and German bishops continue to interpret Vatican Council II with the common irrationality and their governments do not ask them to correct their error.The bishops are handing out false information to receive financial privileges.

The interpretation of Vatican Council II with the False Premise by Pope Benedict and Pope Francis is political. So even the same interpretation by the SSPX is political.

They are not choosing the Rational Premise for political reasons.

The SSPX, Ecclesia Dei communities and sedevansatists like CMRI get special financial benefits because they use the False Premise.

-Lionel Andrades

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MARCH 15, 2022

Conservative Catholics could petition the German Government to ask the German Bishops Conference to acknowledge that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only in 2022.

 


Conservative Catholics could petition the German Government to ask the German Bishops Conference to acknowledge that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only in 2022.

The Government must not allow the bishops to project LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II  as being objective cases in 2022. LG 8 etc must not be projected as known non Catholics saved outside the Catholic Church without Catholic faith and the baptism of water.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider and Dr. Taylor Marshall have said that there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire (LG 14). There are no explicit cases of St. Thomas Aquinas’ implicit baptism of desire (LG 14).The German bishops must be asked to accept this rational interpretation of LG 14 etc.

Presently German Bishops Conference consider LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as refering to non hypothetical cases in 2022.Then with this false premise they reject the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Magisterium of the 12 to 16 century. Then they expect Germans to accept and proclaim this irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II in employment, religious vocations, education scholarships etc.This is discrimination. German Catholics must not be obliged to use a False Premise.      -Lionel Andrades






MARCH 15, 2022

The German bishops, like Pope Benedict are unethical and dishonest when they project Vatican Council II as a break with the Syllabus of Errors and Tradition

 

                                                                                                                                                                                       -Lionel Andrades


The German Catholic bishops are unethical and dishonest when they project LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as being non hypothetical and instead literal persons in the present times. This is a false premise. Then it is wrongly inferred that LG 8 etc are practical exceptions for the Syllabus of Errors, the Athanasius Creed and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). Then it is wrongly claimed that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition and the Syllabus of Errors, Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24 Q, 27Q ) etc are obsolete. There is a development of doctrine with Vatican Council II (of course interpreted only with the false premise, inference and conclusion). So the liberalism of the German Synodal Way comes from the False Premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents.

-Lionel Andrades







The German Ministry of Education must interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ask the German Bishops Conference to do the same.

 

FRIDAY, APRIL 8, 2022

Latin Mass Society, Una Voce must confirm that they interpret Vatican Council II rationally and in harmony with Tradition.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/04/latin-mass-society-una-voce-must.html





 MARCH 16, 2022

The German Ministry of Education must interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ask the German Bishops Conference to do the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                      -Lionel Andrades





MARCH 13, 2022

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes : the German government and secular and Protestant organizations accept the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

 

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes.

Heresy and schism were mortal sins for the Catholic Church in Germany before the 1940ìs. Now with the False Premise, creating a new fake theology there is no doctrinal unity in the Catholic Church on the First Commandment. ‘I am the Lord your God, thou shalt have no other God but me’. There is also no more unity on the Nicene Creed and the Athanasius Creed.

For the German Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX were made obsolete with the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with a False Premise.

So the German Synodal Way does not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since there are alleged  exceptions in Vatican Council II, when it is interpreted irrationally by the German cardinals and bishops.

This is also the irrational interpretation of German Head of States, Chancellors and Government offices.

Now the German government and German secular and Protestant organizations accept the German Catholic cardinals and bishops’ fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 12, 2022


Is the German Synodal Way legal?
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/03/is-german-synodal-way-legal_12.html






1 Athanasius Creed
















2.Nicene Creed








3.Apostles Creed







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MARCH 16, 2022

Cardinal Marx cannot base the German Synodal Way upon Vatican Council II interpreted with a False Premise. The Council with the Rational Premise is traditional


                                                                                                                                                                               -Lionel Andrades



In France, Italy and Germany they are interpreting Vatican Council II with a Fake Premise and the people do not know about it. The bishops’ conferences, Ecclesia Dei communities and the Society of St. Pius X, if they are aware of it, choose not to interpret the Council with the Rational Premise and inform the people about it.

 

FRIDAY, APRIL 8, 2022



APRIL 8, 2022

Latin Mass Society, Una Voce must confirm that they interpret Vatican Council II rationally and in harmony with Tradition.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/04/latin-mass-society-una-voce-must.html


MARCH 18, 2022

In France, Italy and Germany they are interpreting Vatican Council II with a Fake Premise and the people do not know about it. The bishops’ conferences, Ecclesia Dei communities and the Society of St. Pius X, if they are aware of it, choose not to interpret the Council with the Rational Premise and inform the people about it.

 

In France, Italy and Germany they are interpreting Vatican Council II with a Fake Premise and the people do not know about it. The bishops’ conferences, Ecclesia Dei communities and the Society of St. Pius X, if they are aware of it, choose not to interpret the Council with the Rational Premise and inform the people about it.

 I use the Rational Premise. For me LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only. So there are no practical exceptions, mentioned in the text of the Council, which contradict the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius X etc. The Council is traditional on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Athanasius Creed etc. Why should I use the false premise? There is a rational and traditional choice.

Invisible cases are invisible. This is the rational premise.

Invisible cases are visible in the present times. This is the irrational and common premise.

The people do not know that Pope Benedict’s books were written with a False Premise, to create his liberal theology, which is political. Catholics in general do not know theology. So they are unaware of the political Left deception.

-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 16, 2022

The German Ministry of Education must interpret Vatican Council II rationally and ask the German Bishops Conference to do the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                      -Lionel Andrades





MARCH 13, 2022

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes : the German government and secular and Protestant organizations accept the fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

 

The information the German Synodal Way gives out on Vatican Council II is not correct. They are presenting the Council with a lie in official heresy and schism which is approved by the present two popes.

Heresy and schism were mortal sins for the Catholic Church in Germany before the 1940ìs. Now with the False Premise, creating a new fake theology there is no doctrinal unity in the Catholic Church on the First Commandment. ‘I am the Lord your God, thou shalt have no other God but me’. There is also no more unity on the Nicene Creed and the Athanasius Creed.

For the German Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX were made obsolete with the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II with a False Premise.

So the German Synodal Way does not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since there are alleged  exceptions in Vatican Council II, when it is interpreted irrationally by the German cardinals and bishops.

This is also the irrational interpretation of German Head of States, Chancellors and Government offices.

Now the German government and German secular and Protestant organizations accept the German Catholic cardinals and bishops’ fake interpretation of Vatican Council II in the area of public spending, educational scholarships, general employment and inter-faith meetings.

-Lionel Andrades


MARCH 12, 2022


Is the German Synodal Way legal?
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/03/is-german-synodal-way-legal_12.html






1 Athanasius Creed









2.Nicene Creed








3.Apostles Creed






MARCH 16, 2022

German bishops are dishonest

 

Outside the Church there is no salvation is the official teaching of the Catholic Church when Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are interpreted rationally. Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation (AG 7, LG 14) and the Catechism says outside the Church there is no salvation (CCC 846) citing Vatican Council II (AG 7).The Catholic Church is like the Ark of Noah that saves in the flood (CCC 845) and all are called to be united in this Church (CCC 845).

VATICAN COUNCIL II AFFIRMS EENS

1.The German bishops and their Synodal Way are dishonest when they do not affirm Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14  in harmony with the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope  Pius IX and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to the Magisterium in thr 12th to 16th century.

LG 8, 14 AND 16 ARE NOT EXCEPTIONS FOR EENS

2. They are also dishonest when they project LG 

8, LG 14, KG 16, UR 3, and NA 2,GS 22

 etc. as being known examples of salvation 

outside the Church in the present times.

 This is irrational. There are no known people

,saved with the baptism of desire (LG 14), invincible ignorance (LG 16) etc. in 1949-2022.If someone was saved as such it could only be known to God. The norm for salvation is Catholic faith with the baptism of water in the Catholic Church (AG 7, LG 14).