Wednesday, June 24, 2015

Please tell Bishop Heinrich Mussinghoff that the SSPX position on the Jews is that of Vatican Council II

Bishop Heinrich Mussinghoff of Aachen, Germany is telling the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) to change its position on mission to the Jews and accept Vatican Council II.
He means a Vatican Council II in which Lumen Gentium 16 is an exception to the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. 
Instead the bishop should be asked to change his position on mission to the Jews since Lumen Gentium 16 is not an exception to the rigorist intepretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
 Vatican Council II (AG 7) supports the Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews, when it states 'all' need 'faith and baptism' for salvation.Jews do not have 'faith and baptism'.
This also happens to be the position of the SSPX. It is also the teaching of the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257) on the necessity of the baptism of water for 'eternal beatitude'.
Bishop Mussinghoff and the Catholic Conference of Bishops in Germany are contradicting the Bible ( John 3:5, Mk:16:16), Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14), the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1257,845), Dominus Iesus (20), Redemptoris Missio(55) and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441) etc. While the SSPX is in agreement with all these magisterial documents.-Lionel Andrades

MICM does not want to change its official position on Vatican Council II : need to break away from Hildebrand, Davis,SSPX

The MICM(Fr.Leonard Feeney's communities) made a mistake all these years , they went along with Hildebrand, Michael Davis, Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX without really thinking. It was an innocent mistake for all of them.
How can Lumen Gentium 16 ( saved in invincible ignorance) be an exception to 'the rigorist interpretation' of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)? I keep asking.They will not answer. No dialogue here.
It is because LG 16 is an exception to EENS for Brother Andre Marie MICM, Prior, at the St.Benedict Center,Richmond, Hampshire, his community, the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mart (MICM) considers Vatican Council II a break with Tradition and the dogma EENS, when the Council really is Feeneyite.
If LG 16 could be conceived of not being explicit and objectively known today(June 24) then there would be no known exception mentioned in Vatican Council II to Fr.Leonard Feeney's interpretation of EENS.The Council becomes traditional.
foto di Brothers, Slaves of The Immaculate Heart of Mary.
Is being saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16) explicit, visible, seen in the flesh today, this month, this year ?, is a question I ask and there is no answer from the MICM.
Nor will they say that I am wrong nor wil they show me how I am wrong, If a made a mistake.
Their theology in Vatican Council II (VC2)  is based on assuming LG 16 refers to known cases today, this week, this year. It is the same with Cardinal Walter Kaspar  and the liberals and also the traditionalists SSPX and sedevacantists CMRI/MHFM.
Since being saved in invincible ignorance for them is known in the present times, these theoretical cases known only to God become exceptions to EENS.
So for all of them every one does not need to enter the Church, is the message of VC2. The SSPX/MICM reject the Council.Cardinal Kaspar and the Vatican Curia accept.For all of them LG 16 refers to seen in the flesh cases.
But where are these known cases today of persons saved in invincible ignorance?. Cardinal Wilfrid Napier indicates that he does not know of any such case. Neither do I and of course, in real life,  neither would Brother Andre Marie or Christine Niles at Church Militant, know of any such case today.
So why don't they comment on this? Why don't they say the obvious? This is common knowledge that I am asking the MICM to affirm it. They cannot see cases of the baptism of desire or being saved in invincible ignorance today (June 24).They cannot see people in Heaven. They cannot meet or know exceptions to the dogma.The dead-saved are not visible on earth...
They will not say the obvious! If you reader are a student in formation at one of the MICM catechesis/theology institutes discuss this with them.
If the MICM admits the obvious, they would have to change their official position on VC 2.
They would have to teach at their schools and institutes that Vatican  Council  2( AG 7, LG 14) indicates all Jews, Muslims, Buddhists... Protestants and Orthodox Christians need to convert into the Catholic Church to go to Heaven and avoid Hell.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc cannot be exceptions to EENS.
Bro.Andre Marie and Bro. Thomas Augustine MICM, Priors at the St.Benedict Centers in the dioceses of Manchester and Worcester,USA  would have to contradict their bishops and religious superiors.It is politically correct to support error. It would be acceptable to the bishops, the Vatican and the traditionalists. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Dietrich von Hildebrand,Michael Davis and others were correct in their criticism of Vatican Council II - but this was a Council in which LG 16  etc referred to explicit, known in the present times cases.It is with this irrational premise that they interpreted the Council, the same as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. It was the same with Pope John Paul II, who  is still my favourite pope.
I have always been a supporter of the MICM and still am, because of their position on EENS.I have never met or spoken to any of them.There was a time when I was wrong and assumed that being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire, were exceptions to EENS.Vatican Council II was a break with the strict interpretation of the dogma on salvation.
Over some 15 years, I have corrected course.
-Lionel Andrades

Michael Voris, Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary are unaware that nothing in Vatican Council II can be an exception to EENS

Feast of St.John the Baptist today : Medugorje anniversary

Thousands expected tomorrow at Medugorje 34th anniversary : feast of St. John the Baptist