Saturday, October 1, 2016

The two popes have tried to change Church teaching.Pope Francis has attempted it on moral theology and Pope Benedict on salvation theology.

The two popes have tried to change Church teaching; the constant teaching of the magisterium.Pope Francis has attempted it on moral theology and Pope Benedict  on salvation theology.
Both have used the philosophy of subjectivism.This was noticed by Fr. Matthias Guadron of the SSPX Germany, with reference to Amoris Laetitia.However no one has pointed out the same subjectivism in the interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) by Pope Benedict.
For Pope Francis and Cardinal Schonborn there are known exceptions to manifest mortal sin.For Pope Benedict there are known exceptions  to the dogma on all needing to be incorporated into the Church to avoid Hell(for salvation).
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For Pope Francis we can subjectively know when a divorced and remarried Catholic  can receive the Eucharist.For Pope Benedict we can subjectively know of a baptism of desire case without the baptism of water, who has been saved or will be saved.
So with this subjectivism, 'the constant teaching of the magisterium' has been changed.For both the popes there are 'practical exceptions' to traditional teachings on faith and morals.
Pope Francis' moral theology in Amoris Laetitia contradicts the moral encyclical Veritatis Splendor, approved by Pope Benedict when he was the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.Even though it contradicts the Fundamental Option Theory  and a mortal sin being objectively being a mortal sin,  as mentioned in Veritatis Splendor, Pope Benedict says nothing about Amoris Laeititia.
Pope Benedict in his new book, according to a report, has disclosed he was a progressivist at Vatican Council II.He rejected the Scholasticism models which were presented.We also now know that he supported the New Theology based on an irrational premise and conclusion. He set guidlines so that seminarians and priests would not mention Hell in their homilies.During his pontificate priests in general did not speak of mortal sin and Hell.They also gave the Eucharist to men and women wearing short pants and other immodestly dressed clothes.This is a mortal sin before the very eyes of the priests giving the Eucharist and continues to be a scandal.
A priest to whom I spoke to about this said he did not want to give the Eucharist to immodestly dressed Catholics at Mass,but he had to do so out of obedience to his superiors.
The priests have to obey the two popes who have to obey the Masons and the Jewish Left.The Left supports same sex marriages, abortion, immodesty in clothes, pornography and other things approved by Satan.
The Catholic laity at Mass in Italian silently and helplessly watch all this.Then it is not known who among the lay congregation are not really Catholics, but are infiltrators. They belong to some secret society and are there at Mass on assignment and in obedience to someone who is not a Catholic.-Lionel Andrades

Friday, September 30, 2016

There are hundreds of reports on line on this issue.When will someone tell Pope Benedict the truth?

    • Comments From Mundabor's blog : Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
  1. Mundabor;
    Here is the B16 {oops, sorry…Pope-Emeritus Benedict XVI Joseph Ratzinger LOL } interview:
    And an assessment in English for those of us that can’t read the original!
    Quote:
    “The missionaries of the 16th century were convinced that the unbaptized person is lost forever. After the [Second Vatican] Council, this conviction was definitely abandoned. The result was a two-sided, deep crisis. Without this attentiveness to the salvation, the Faith loses its foundation.”
    You’ll see in the interview there appears to be a sense of internal conflict in P-E BXVI. He frankly admits the obvious {the dogma has been dumped after V2} but isn’t really clear as to WHO he thinks dumped it; the CHURCH {She can’t} or the “culture” of the Church, or prelates, or faithful, or…who…B16 himself? But we all know that the essential teaching of the dogma has been ignored at best and completely rejected in practice for most Catholics, and I’d add Bishops, Cardinals and the Pope himself there as well if clarity of speech means anything anymore. Who knows? And if not “abandoned”, it has been redefined so as to be a meaningless dogma as if that were possible.
    • Ha, but it seems to me that he is saying (badly) the contrary: “if you ignore eternal truths, the faith loses its foundation”, or “when V II priests do no tbelieve what the Church has always believed, the Faith loses its foundation”.
      In my eyes, what he is saying is “your garden variety V II priest”, not “the Church” as sacred institution.
      However, the man himself was not better than that i his pontificate: he just ignored the hard points too often.
      M
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but isn’t really clear as to WHO he thinks dumped it; the CHURCH {She can’t} or the “culture” of the Church, or prelates, or faithful, or…who…B16 himself? 

Lionel: They still don't know ( Mundabor included) that the dogma was changed with an irrational premise which is the basis of the new theology. Set aside the new theology and we are back to the old ecclesiology. The dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus will not have changed.
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But we all know that the essential teaching of the dogma has been ignored at best and completely rejected in practice for most Catholics, and I’d add Bishops, Cardinals and the Pope himself there as well if clarity of speech means anything anymore. Who knows? And if not “abandoned”, it has been redefined so as to be a meaningless dogma as if that were possible.

Lionel:The dogma has been made meaningless since it is assumed that being saved in invincible ignorance and the catechumen who desired the baptism of water but died before receiving in, referred to personally known, cases, visible in our reality.It was also assumed that these cases were saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.Invisible cases were assumed to be visible persons who were exceptios to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. So since allegedly there was known salvation outside the Church, every one did not have to be incorporated into the Church as a member for salvation. The dogma had been discarded. The excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney was maintained for some 19 plus years, right through Vatican Council II.
Vatican Councl II also mentions these invisible cases as if they are visible. This cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit.This is an objective mistake in Vatican Council II.
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Ha, but it seems to me that he is saying (badly) the contrary: “if you ignore eternal truths, the faith loses its foundation”, or “when V II priests do no tbelieve what the Church has always believed, the Faith loses its foundation”.

Lionel:There are a hundreds of reports on line on this issue.When will someone tell Pope Benedict the truth?

-Lionel Andrades



Catholic faith teaches : All Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Orthodox Christians and other non Catholics in 2016 are oriented to the fires of Hell unless they are incorporated into the Catholic Church as members, with 'faith and baptism'

All Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Orthodox Christians and other non Catholics in 2016 are oriented to the fires of Hell unless they are incorporated into the Catholic Church as members, with 'faith and baptism' (Vatican Council II (AG 7, LG 14), Cantate Domino Council of Florence 1441, Dominus Iesus 20, Nicene Creed, Athanasius Creed etc). So I affirm Vatican Council II with the old ecclesiology.
 
The difference between me and the First Signatories of the  'Declaration of fidelity to the Church's unchangable teaching on marriage'  is :-
1.All the signatoris would be rejecting the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Church 'which comes to us from the Apostles.'
2.All the signatories assume that the baptism of desire refers to visible cases and so is an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
3.The signatories suppose that we can see these hypothetical cases objectively on earth. So they are exceptions to the Church's constant magisterium.
-Lionel Andrades
 

September 29, 2016
What about a Declaration of fideltiy to the Church's unchangable teaching on salvation which has been changed and accepted by all the signatories of the Declaration of fidelity to the Church's unchangable teaching on marriage ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/what-about-declaration-of-fideltiy-to.html

So it cannot be said that I am a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II. Neither can it be said by the traditionalists that I reject EENS( Feeneyite)

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Here I have affirmed the Catholic Faith according to Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS Feeneyite).You can place it on a Jewish or Muslim website or forum, as you suggested I do.

So for me EENS( Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) says all Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Orthodox Christians and other non Catholics are oriented to the fires of Hell unless they are incorporated into the Catholic Church as members, with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14).So I affirm Vatican Council II with the old ecclesiology.For me the new ecclesiology of Catholic Answers and the FSSP is heretical, irrational and an innovation in the Church. It causes the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.It can be avoided by Catholic Answers. A rational choice is there.
So it cannot be said that I am a traditionalist who rejects Vatican Council II. Neither can it be said by the traditionalists that I reject EENS( Feeneyite).

eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/…/at-catholic-ans…

I am a Catholic.I was baptised in the Catholic Church as an infant.All my life I have been a Catholic.Pope Francis is my pope though when he contradicts Tradition and previous popes, I reject what he says.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thursday, September 29, 2016

What about a Declaration of fideltiy to the Church's unchangable teaching on salvation which has been changed and accepted by all the signatories of the Declaration of fidelity to the Church's unchangable teaching on marriage ?

What about a Declaration of fideltiy to the Church's unchangable teaching on salvation which has been changed and accepted by all the signatories of the Declaration of fidelity to the Church's unchangable teaching on marriage.
'Declaration of fidelity to the Church's unchangable teaching on marriage'  http://www.filialappeal.org/full

All the signatoris would be rejecting the traditional teaching on exclusive salvation in the Church 'which comes to us from the Apostles.'
 
Until recently, the Catholic Church remained the stronghold of true marriage and family, but errors about these two divine institutions are widespread today in Catholic circles, particularly after the Extraordinary and Ordinary Synods on the family, held in 2014 and 2015, respectively, and the publication of the Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia. - See more at: http://www.filialappeal.org/full#sthash.U5Kyb3ax.dpuf
All the signatories assume that the baptism of desire refers to visible cases and so is an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS). So every one does not need to be incorporated into the Church as a member is the new heretical doctrine.
Their 'conscience' tells them that every one does not need to be a card carrying member of the Catholic Church any more.Since there are known exceptions of people in Heaven or  on earth who have been saved outside the Church.They have gone to Heaven or are in Heaven without 'faith and baptism'(AG 7, LG 14).
This has changed the Nicene Creed, but there are no objections to  from the signatories, to Catholics in this state of mortal sin, a first class heresy. They can receive the Eucharist.
For centuries the Church's constant magisterium did not teach that hypotyhetical cases like the baptism of desire could be personally known to humans. Now it is supposed that we can see these hypothetical cases  objectively on earth. So they are exceptions to the Church's constant magisterium. This is accepted by the signatories.-Lionel Andrades




First Signatories
  • Wolfgang Waldstein, Professor emeritus of the University of Salzburg, member of the Pontifical Academy for Life (Austria)
  • His Eminence Jãnis Cardinal Pujats, Archbishop emeritus of Riga (Latvia)
  • The Most Rev. Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of Astana (Kazakhstan)
  • Prof. Josef Seifert, Professor of Philosophy at the The International Association for the Study of the Philosophy of Edith Stein (IASPES), Founding Rector and Professor of the International Academy of Philosophy in the Principality of Liechtenstein (Austria)
  • Dr. Anca-Maria Cernea, President of the Ioan Barbus Foundation (Romania)
  • Dr. Vincent-Jean-Pierre Cernea (Romania)
  • Fr. Efrem Jindráček, Vice Dean of the Faculty of Philosophy of the University of St. Thomas Aquinas, Angelicum (Rome-Italy)
  • His Eminence Carlo Cardinal Caffarra, Archbishop emeritus of Bologna, Founder and first president of the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family (Italy)
  • His Eminence Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke, Patron of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (Vatican)
  • Rev. Fr. Nicola Bux, Professor at the Theological Faculty of Puglia (Italy)
  • The Most Rev. Andreas Laun, Auxiliary Bishop of Salzburg (Austria)
  • The Most Rev. Juan Rodolfo Laise, Archbishop emeritus of San Luis (Argentina)
  • Rev. Fr. Antonius Maria Mamsery, Superior General of the Missionaries of the Holy Cross in Singida (Tanzania)
  • Rev. Fr. Giovanni M. Scalese, B., Ecclesiastical superior of the mission sui iuris in Afghanistan
  • Rev. Fr. José María Iraburu, Former Professor of Spiritual Theology at the School of Theology of Northern Spain; President of the Gratis Date Foundation and editor of the Site InfoCatólica (Spain)
  • The Rev. Msgr. Juan Claudio Sanahuja, Doctor in Theology, Professor of Moral Theology and the Sacraments, journalist (Argentina)
  • Prof. Dr. Alma von Stockhausen, Professor of Philosophy and Founder of the Gustav-Siewerth Academy in Weilheim-Bielbronnen (Germany)
  • Prof. Dr. Rudolf Hilfer, Faculty of Physics and Mathematics, Institute for Computational Physics at the University of Stuttgart (Germany)
  • Adolpho Lindenberg, Co-Founder of the Brazilian Society for the Defence of Tradition, Family and Property (TFP) and President of the Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira Institute (Brazil)
  • John Smeaton, Chief Executive of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children and co-founder of Voice of the Family (United Kingdom)
  • Prof. Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, Professor, economist and banker, Former President of IOR (Italy)
  • Prof. Dr. Massimo de Leonardis, Director of the Department of Political Sciences at the Catholic University of the Sacred Heart - Milan (Italy)
  • Count Giorgio Piccolomini (Italy)
  • Countess Felicitas Piccolomini (Italy)
  • Prof. Tommaso Scandroglio, Professor of Ethics and Bioethics at the European University (Italy)
  • Prof. Giovanni Turco, Professor of Philosophy of Public Law at the University of Udine (Italy)
  • H.I.R.H. Prince Dom Luiz of Orleans-Braganza, Head of the Imperial House of Brazil
  • Prof. Isobel Camp, Professor of Philosophy at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas, Angelicum of Rome (United Kindgom)
  • H.H. Duke Paul of Oldenburg (Germany)
  • H.H. Duchess Pilar of Oldenburg (Germany)
  • Prince Carlo Massimo (Italy)
  • Princess Elisa Massimo (Italy)
  • Paolo Pasqualucci, Former Professor of the Philosophy of Law at the Faculty of Jurisprudence at the University of Perugia (Italy)
  • Prof. Corrado Gnerre, author and Professor of Religious Sciences (Italy)
  • H.I.R.H. Prince Dom Bertrand of Orleans-Braganza (Brazil)
  • Prof. John Laughland, author and Ph. D. Philosophy (United Kingdom)
  • Prof. Robert Lazu, author and Ph. D. Philosophy (Romania)
  • Prof. David Magalhães, Professor of the Faculty of Law at the University of Coimbra (Portugal)
  • Prof. Enrico Maria Radaelli, author, Research director for research for the Department of Metaphysics of Beauty and Philosophy of Arts (Italy)
  • Rev. Fr. Brian Harrison, Former Professor of Theology at the Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico; Scholar-in-Residence, Oblates of Wisdom Study Center (USA)
  • Prof. Roberto de Mattei, Professor of Modern and Contemporary History at the European University of Rome (Italy)
  • Rev. Fr. Dr. Marc Hausmann, Doctor and Professor of Philosophy (Austria)
  • Rev. Fr. Alfredo Morselli, Theologian and author (Italy)
  • Ambassador Emilio Barbarani (Italy)
  • Ambassador Héctor Riesle Contreras, former Chilean ambassador to the Holy See (Chile)
  • Archduchess Alejandra of Habsburg (Mrs. Hector Riesle Contreras) (Austria, Chile)
  • Rev. Fr. Fernando Palacios, Doctor of Canon Law (Spain)
  • James Bogle, Barrister and former President of Una Voce International (United Kingdom)
  • John-Henry Westen, Co-Founder and Editor-in-Chief LifeSiteNews.com (Canada)
  • Luis Fernando Pérez Bustamante, Director of InfoCatólica (Spain)
  • Maria Guarini, Director of the Site “Chiesa e Post Concilio” (Italy)
  • Dr. Caio Xavier da Silveira, Co-founder of the Brazilian Society for the Defence of Tradition, Family, and Property (TFP), President of the Fédération Pro Europa Christiana (France)
  • Prof. Gianandrea de Antonellis, President of the European Institute of Research, Studies and Formation (I.E.R.E.F.) (Italy)
  • Dr. Mauro Faverzani, Editor of “Radici Cristiane” (Italy)
  • Prof. Federico Catani, author and doctor in Religious Sciences (Italy)
  • Prof. Guido Vignelli, author and researcher on the family (Italy)
  • Maria Madise, Coordinator of Voice of the Family (Estonia)
  • Cristina Siccardi, writer and historian (Italy)
  • Mario Navarro da Costa, Director, Tradition, Family, Property Washington Bureau (USA)
  • Mathias von Gersdorff, writer and lecturer (Germany)
  • Marchioness Gabriella Spalletti Trivelli Coda Nunziante (Italy)
  • Virginia Coda Nunziante, President of Famiglia Domani (Italy)
  • Prof. Raúl del Toro, Professor of organ and organist (Spain)
  • Prof. María Arratíbel , Professor of music (Spain)
  • Daniel Iglesias Grèzes, Secretary of the Catholic Cultural Centre “Fe y Razón” (Uruguay)
  • Pedro Luis Llera Vázquez, Catholic School Director (Spain)
  • David González Cea (signs as Alonso Gracián), Thomist philosopher and writer (Spain)
  • José Miguel Arráiz, Catechist and founder of ApologeticaCatolica.org (Venezuela)
  • Antonello Brandi, President Pro Vita Onlus (Italy)
  • Suzanne Pearson, Delegate, Emperor Karl League of Prayer (USA)
  • Paul N. King, President and Founder, The Paulus Institute for the Propagation of Sacred Liturgy (USA)
  • Donna Fitzpatrick Bethell, Chairman of the Board of Christendom College, former Under Secretary, US Department of Energy (USA)
  • Alessandra Nucci, Writer and Director of the magazine Una Voce Grida (Italy)
  • Prof. Néstor Martínez, Licentiate in Philosophy, Professor and writer. Co-Founder of “Fe y Razón” (Uruguay)
  • Prof. Javier Paredes, Professor of Contemporary History at the University of Alcalà (Spain)
  • The Honourable Justin Shaw (United Kingdom)
  • Mrs. Caroline Shaw (United Kingdom)
  • Bruno Moreno, Licentiate in Physics and Ecclesiastical Studies, writer and editor of Vita Brevis (Spain)
  • Juan José Romero, Editor and Consultant for Communications (Spain)
  • Dr. Alberto Zelger, President of the Centro Culturale Nicolò Stenone (Italy)
  • Gianfranco Amato, President of Lawyers for Life, National Secretary of Popolo della Famiglia (Italy)
- See more at: http://www.filialappeal.org/seemore#sthash.BWlVDY6H.dpuf


 
 

Wednesday, September 28, 2016

We have a new salvation theology and this is not mentioned by the writers of the Liber of Accusations

The Remnant and Catholic Family News published a Liber of Accusation against Pope Francis however they do not mention the heresy  being taught by Catholic organisations with the approval of the two popes.
Here we have Catholic Answers not aware of what is the exact cause of the hermeneutic of continuity. Tim Staples vaguely talks about a dogmatic and pastoral approach.

Pope Framcis like Catholic Answers and EWTN uses a theology, which violates the Principle of Non Contradiction and still after years there is no statement from the writers of the Liber about this.

It is said that there can be no change in the teachings of the Church on faith and morals and yet the teachings on faith have been changed. There are new doctrines on salvation based on the new irrational theology. There is a new ecclesiology of the Church based on the new Cushingite theology.
Trent Horn a Catholic apologist rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since he assumes there are known exceptions and this is the norm also for Pope Francis and the Jesuits.

How can we violate the Principle of Non Contradiction with theology and create new doctrines and a new faith?We have a new salvation theology and this is not mentioned by the writers of the Liber of Accusations.-Lionel Andrades

Heresy is caused by directly not accepting a teaching of the Church which it is necessary to accept. However heresy is also caused if you mix up what is defacto as being dejure ( in principle), is you confuse what is hypothetical as being objective
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/heresy-is-caused-by-directly-not.html


With this new theology the Principle of Non Contradiction has been violated. There are two teachings in the Church. One is orthodox and the other ambigous. One is rational and the other is irrational
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/with-this-new-theology-principle-of-non.html


At Catholic Answers Tim Staples and Patrick Coffin do not realize that the issue is faith.The discipline comes later.First there is a change in doctrine and then this is reflected in the new pastoral practise, the change in discipline. It is not vice versa.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/at-catholic-answers-tim-staples-and.html


Trent Horn, apologist at Catholic Answers indicates that his understanding of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is Cushingite and not Feeneyite
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/trent-horn-apologist-at-catholic.html


No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church? -Catholic Answers video : common mistake
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/no-salvation-outside-catholic-church.html



Is Salvation Possible for Non-Catholics? : Trent Horn at Catholic Answers assumes Lumen Gentium 16 is not a hypothetical case but refers to someone personally known
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/is-salvation-possible-for-non-catholics.html


Is Catholic teaching on salvation too complicated? : Catholic Answers violates the Principle of Non Contradiction
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/09/is-catholic-teaching-on-salvation-too.html

Heresy is caused by directly not accepting a teaching of the Church which it is necessary to accept. However heresy is also caused if you mix up what is defacto as being dejure ( in principle), is you confuse what is hypothetical as being objective.



(1:04:16) Tim Staples begins to explain the hermenutic of continuity as being one of approach, a dogmatic or pastoral approach.
However if you interpret the baptism of desire as being visible or invisible, as known defacto or hypothetical, changes the heremeneutic of continuity. We have the hermeutic of rupture.
Heresy is caused by directly not accepting a teaching of the Church which it is necessary to accept. However heresy is also caused if you mix up what is defacto as being dejure ( in principle), is you confuse what is hypothetical as being objective.
So the baptism of desire becomes a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and so there is a change in a dogma of the Catholic Church.
So the Council with LG 16 (visible) creates a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
For me the LG 16 is invisible  and so there is a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
-Lionel Andrades